Is the linear momentum conserved in the presence of friction?

In summary, the conversation discusses the conservation of linear momentum in the presence of friction in various scenarios. It is concluded that momentum is always conserved in collisions and friction cannot cause a loss of total momentum. The concept of angular momentum is also mentioned and it is noted that both linear and angular momentum are conserved in collisions.
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Hi,
Is the linear momentum conserved in the presence of friction if i consider certain systems?
For instance: supposing my system is made up by a planet still in space, and an object with a certain initial speed: the total momentum, being the planet initially still, will be the mass of the object times it's initial speed.. If then the object gets in contact with the planet giving life to friction, will the momentum be conserved? if after the friction the object stops moving, will the planet obtain a certain speed such that the (planets mass + the objects mass) times the planets new speed = objects initial speed times the object initial mass?
thanks a lot in advance and sorry for the language inaccuracy (i'm italian infact)
Paolo
 
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Welcome to PF!

Hi Paolo! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(btw, "still" is correct, but we usually say "stationary" or "at rest" instead, because "still" has more than one meaning!)
paolo32 said:
Hi,
Is the linear momentum conserved in the presence of friction if i consider certain systems?
For instance: supposing my system is made up of a planet still in space, and an object with a certain initial speed: the total momentum, the planet being initially still, will be the mass of the object times its initial speed. If then the object gets in contact with the planet giving rise to friction, will the momentum be conserved? if after the friction the object stops moving, will the planet obtain a certain speed such that the (planet's mass + the object's mass) times the planet's new speed = object's initial speed times the object's initial mass?


Momentum is always conserved in collisions.

Friction can only cause loss of total energy, not of total momentum. :wink:
 
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If an object strikes a planet and recoils backwards with a coefficient of restitution (COR) = 1,then the momentum transfer is twice what it would be if the object stuck (COR = 0). In both these cases momentum is conserved. Now consider the following case: The object strikes the planet off center (tangently) and sticks, causing the planet to spin. Is linear momentum conserved, or is some converted to angular momentum?
 
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Bob S said:
… Is linear momentum conserved, or is some converted to angular momentum?

Momentum is always conserved in collisions.

Angular momentum also is always conserved in collisions. :smile:

They don't interchange.

(when the planet's angular momentum changes, that's because an off-centre object does have some angular momentum about the planet's axis :wink:)
 
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A bullet that hits and passes through a wooden block - Lots of friction here and momentum is still conserved.

As far as momentum is concerned, it is conserved even when a moving car brakes to rest.
It may seem that momentum is not conserved in this case but it actually still is!
 

Related to Is the linear momentum conserved in the presence of friction?

1. Is the linear momentum always conserved?

No, in the presence of external forces such as friction, the linear momentum may not be conserved.

2. How does friction affect the conservation of linear momentum?

Friction acts as an external force that can cause a change in the total momentum of a system, therefore it can affect the conservation of linear momentum.

3. Can the conservation of linear momentum be applied to systems with friction?

Yes, the conservation of linear momentum can still be applied to systems with friction, as long as all external forces are taken into account.

4. What factors can influence the conservation of linear momentum in the presence of friction?

The coefficient of friction, the surface area of contact, and the velocity of the objects are some factors that can influence the conservation of linear momentum in the presence of friction.

5. Is the conservation of linear momentum affected by the type of friction present?

Yes, the type of friction can affect the conservation of linear momentum. For example, kinetic friction can cause a decrease in linear momentum, while static friction may not have as much of an impact.

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