Is F = ma the generalized force equation?

In summary, the force on an object is determined by its second time derivative of position, which has been observed through experiments and applies to all situations. The equation F=ma holds at all times, even when the force varies over time. This means that the third and possibly higher derivatives of position may be nonzero. However, the equation F=ma is not an approximation, but rather a generalization of the actual equation for force, which is dp/dt. So, while the acceleration may involve higher order derivatives, it is not a low-order approximation of an object's true trajectory. Additionally, the third derivative is known as "jerk" and the fourth derivative is known as "jounce".
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It just seems odd that the force on an object goes based on the second time derivative of its position vector. I understand that this is what is observed through experiment, but is this only for certain types of situations? Is the acceleration only some kind of low-order approximation of a particle's true trajectory due to forces, which also involve higher order time derivatives that are normally neglected?
 
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No it's not an approximation, and it applies to all situations. The amounts involved (F and a) are instantaneous. The force F can vary over time and often does. In that case the third time derivative of position, and possibly higher derivatives too, will be nonzero. But the equation F=ma will hold at all times.

By the way, the third derivative is called jerk and the fourth derivative is jounce. They have other, equally colourful alternative names as well.
 
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TheCanadian said:
Is the acceleration only some kind of low-order approximation of a particle's true trajectory due to forces, which also involve higher order time derivatives that are normally neglected?
Not in this sense; however, the actual equation for force is -
##F## = ##\frac {dp} {dt}##

We generalize this as ##F = ma##. So to sum up, it is not an approximation in the sense you are considering. Hope this helps.

P.S. My first use of LaTex!:smile:
 

Related to Is F = ma the generalized force equation?

What is the F = ma equation used for?

The equation F = ma is used to calculate the force acting on an object based on its mass and acceleration. It is also known as Newton's Second Law of Motion.

How is F = ma related to the concept of force?

F = ma shows the direct relationship between force and acceleration. It states that the force applied to an object is directly proportional to its mass and the acceleration it experiences.

Is F = ma the only equation used for calculating force?

No, F = ma is not the only equation used for calculating force. There are other equations, such as F = dp/dt (force equals the change in momentum over time), that can be used depending on the specific situation.

Can F = ma be used for all types of forces?

F = ma is a generalized equation that can be used for calculating any type of force, as long as the mass and acceleration of the object are known. However, it may not be the most appropriate equation in certain scenarios, such as when dealing with non-uniform or changing forces.

Why is F = ma considered a fundamental equation in physics?

F = ma is considered a fundamental equation in physics because it is one of the basic principles that govern the motion of objects. It is used in a wide range of applications and has been proven to accurately describe the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration in various situations.

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