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Iacchus32
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What would you have me do make something up here? If I "know" something exists, then why should I have to imply I only believe that it exists? Either God is a reality or He isn't. If He is then He's something to be experienced.Proving the reality of the concept, or having direct experience of that concept, is something else altogether. The thread is about "defining" God - not proving that God exists. I'm merely making the point that the human-mind is quite capable of grasping the existence of the concept without having had direct experience or proof of that concept's actual existence. For example, everyone more-or-less understands what 'infinity' and 'nothing' are; but no human mind has ever grasped these concepts within their experience. The concepts are intangible. The concepts are merely understood by the mind. By reason.
This is what the whole of Christendom seems to suggest (I'm referring to the New Testament here), that you come to except Him personally, and actually "know" that He exists. And, while I may doubt the validity of many who claim they do (primarily those who subscribe to organized religion), it still doesn't discount the possibility that it happens.
While you can postulate about "God the concept" all you like, but that don't mean Jack ... If you're looking for the "god of reason," I would suggest approaching the "god Apollo," you might have better luck.
I would much rather experience His presence and bask in the warmth of His Love.I disagree. I believe it takes faith & trust in knowing that the reasoned-concept (God) has a reality unto itself. Imagination is only required to formulate a subjective-God (a limited God). Reason, however, understands that the concept of God is boundless (non-finite). Thus, imagination is actually meaningless in relation to this attribute (boundlessness); for it is meaningless to formulate a imagined-opinion of God if one understands the boundlessness that is intrinsic to that concept.