Integrating a Complex Math Problem - Need Help!

In summary, the conversation discussed how to integrate a general expression with multiple nested sine functions. The suggestion was to start with simpler cases and build up to the general expression. The Mathematica was used to find the values for specific cases, but a logical expression to describe the general expression is still being worked on. A recursive formula was also suggested as a potential solution.
  • #1
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Hello

I have problem with integrate

[tex]
\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}d\phi_1...\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}d\phi_{n-2}sin^{2(n-1)}\phi_1...sin^{2(n-k)}\phi_k ...sin^4\phi_{n-2}
[/tex]

Please help me.
 
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  • #2
Ok, you got to start small with these things then build it back up. So how about starting with n=2:

[tex]\int_0^a\int_0^a \sin^2(\phi_1)\sin^4(\phi_2) d\phi_1 d\phi_2[/tex]

Alright, get that one straight, then add another one, then another one. Do maybe 3,4 or five that way and you'll (hopefully) see a trend that you can then use deduction to deduce the value for the general expression.
 
  • #3
Using the Mathematica I found that
[tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^2xdx=\frac{\pi}{4}[/tex][tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^4xdx=\frac{3\pi}{16}[/tex]
[tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^6xdx=\frac{5\pi}{32}[/tex][tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^8xdx=\frac{35\pi}{256}[/tex]
[tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^{10}xdx=\frac{63\pi}{512}[/tex]

so I can write

[tex]\int_{0}^{\frac{\pi}{2}}Sin^{2n}xdx=\frac{a_{2n} \pi }{2^{2n}}[/tex]

but I can't find any logical expression which describes an
 
  • #4
Keep in mind the variables are separated so won't the answer be some kind of product like:

[tex]\displaystyle\prod_{n=1}^N (I_n)[/tex]

I think so anyway. So the [itex]a_n[/itex] term may be a problem. Ok, what happens when you just solve for the antiderivative when n=2, n=3, n=4, n=5. Can you see some kind of trend there?.
 
  • #5
I think I may have led you astray on this and now suggest we focus on the recursive formula:

[tex]\int \sin^n(x)dx=-\frac{1}{n} \cos(x)\sin^{n-1}(x)+\frac{n-1}{n}\int \sin^{n-2}(x)dx[/tex]

Haven't worked it out yet but it looks encouraging.
 

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