Integral of Natural Log Part II

In summary, the person is having trouble finding the integral of ln(x+1) and is attempting to do it by parts. However, they keep getting stuck and are not able to simplify the integral. They then receive help and are reminded to substitute u=x+1 in order to solve the integral. The formula for the integral of ln(x) is also provided for reference.
  • #1
wubie
Hi,

I am still having trouble with taking the integral of the following:

integral of ln(x+1) dx

I am trying to do it by parts but I end up getting stuck. I had no problem doing:

integral of ln x dx

But I can't seem to get

integral of ln (x+1) dx


Let u = ln (x+1) then du = 1/ (x+1)

Let dv = dx then v = x.

So then

integral of ln (x+1) dx =

ln(x+1)*x - integral of x/(x+1) dx

I then though that I would integrate the last part by parts again.

Let u = x then du = dx

Let dv = 1/(x+1) then v = ln(x+1)

So then

integral of x/(x+1) dx =

x*ln(x+1) - integral of ln(x+1) dx.

So far I now have

integral of ln (x+1) dx =

ln(x+1)*x - [x*ln(x+1) - integral of ln(x+1) dx]

But then all I end up getting is

integral of ln (x+1) dx = integral of ln (x+1) dx

So I am back to where I started. What am I doing incorrectly?

Any help is appreciated. Thankyou.
 
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  • #2
you know the integral of ln[x] and now u want integral of ln[x+1]?
Is it just me or do I hear x+1 begging to be substituted??
 
  • #3
!@#$!@#$!@#$!@#$%!@#$!

What is wrong with me tonight? I can't see anything. >8(

Thanks stoffer.

Cheers.
 
  • #4
no prob. we all have our moments
 
  • #5
[tex]\int \ln(x+1) dx[/tex]
let [tex]u=x+1[/tex]
then [tex] du=1 dx [/tex]
so you have
[tex] \int \ln(u) du [/tex]
which is:
now you can apply the formula I gave you in the other thread so you get:
[tex]u \ln u - u = (x+1) \ln (x+1) - (x+1)[/tex]

FYI derivation of the formula:

[tex]\int \ln(x) dx = \int \ln(x) * 1 dx[/tex]
now by parts we have:
[tex]u=\ln(x)[/tex]
[tex]dv=1dx[/tex]
so
[tex]du=\frac{1}{x} dx[/tex]
[tex]v=x[/tex]
so
[tex]\int 1 * \ln(x) dx=\int u dv = uv+C_1-\int v du = [/tex]
[tex]x \ln x +C_1- \int x* \frac{1}{x} dx=x \ln x +C_1- \int 1dx = x \ln x +C_1- x+C_2=[/tex]
[tex]x \ln x -x +C[/tex]
 

Related to Integral of Natural Log Part II

1. What is the formula for integrating natural logarithms?

The formula for integrating natural logarithms is: ∫ ln(x) dx = xln(x) - x + C

2. What are the steps for evaluating the integral of natural logarithms?

The steps for evaluating the integral of natural logarithms are:

  1. Use the formula ∫ ln(x) dx = xln(x) - x + C
  2. Substitute the limits of integration into the formula
  3. Simplify the expression using algebraic rules
  4. Plug in the limits of integration to find the final answer

3. Can natural logarithms be integrated using substitution?

Yes, natural logarithms can be integrated using substitution. The substitution method involves substituting a variable for the entire expression inside the integral, and then using the chain rule to solve the resulting integral.

4. What is the significance of the constant of integration when evaluating the integral of natural logarithms?

The constant of integration, represented by C, is added to the final answer when evaluating the integral of natural logarithms. This constant allows for an infinite number of possible solutions to the integral, as the derivative of a constant is always 0.

5. Are there any real-world applications of the integral of natural logarithms?

Yes, the integral of natural logarithms has various applications in fields such as physics, biology, and economics. For example, it is used to model exponential growth and decay, as well as to calculate the area under a curve in a graph. It also has applications in solving differential equations and in calculating the time complexity of algorithms.

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