Integer Solutions: $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$

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In summary: I found solutions $(x,y) = (\pm4,3),\ (\pm4,5)$. I will look at mente oscura's solution to see if it can be adapted to show that these are the only solutions.Further thoughts:The left side of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2 = 16y+1$ is positive, so $y$ must be positive. Let $x-y = k$. Then the equation becomes $k^2(2y-k)^2 = 16y+1.$ Case 1: $k>0$. If two positive integers have a given sum (which in this case will be $2y
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Find all integer solutions of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$
 
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Find all integer solutions of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$

Hello.

Missing me "thank you" button, anemone :eek:

1º) [tex]3|y[/tex]

Demonstration:

1.1) [tex]If \ 3|x,y \rightarrow{}3|(16y+1) \cancel{=}3k \ / \forall{} k \in{\mathbb{Z}}[/tex]. Absurdity.

1.2) [tex]If \ 3|x \ or \ 3|y \ or \ 3 \cancel{| } \ x,y \rightarrow{} (x^2-y^2)^2 \equiv{1 } mod(3)[/tex]

Therefore:

[tex][(x^2-y^2)^2-1] \equiv{0 } mod(3)[/tex]

2º) [tex]y^2<(16y+1)[/tex]

[tex]If \ y^2 \ge{} (16y+1) \rightarrow{}(x^2-y^2)^2=(x-y)^2(x+y)^2 > 16y+1[/tex]

[tex]y^2<16y+1 \rightarrow{} y^2-16y-1<0[/tex]

[tex]y< \dfrac{16 \pm \sqrt{256+4}}{2} < 17[/tex]

3º) The values of "and" generate "perfect" squares in [tex]16y+1[/tex] , they are the result of the following succession:

3.1) [tex]3(12n^2-17n+3) \rightarrow{}y=3,60,189,...[/tex]

3.2) [tex]3(12n^2-7n+3) \rightarrow{}y=18,105,264,...[/tex]

3.3) [tex]3(12n^2+10n-11) \rightarrow{}y=33,138,315,...[/tex]

3.4) [tex]3(12n^2+n) \rightarrow{}y=39,150,333,...[/tex]

Conclusion:

Only the result OK us: y=3

Let's see if it fulfils the conditions:

[tex](x^2-y^2)^2=16y+1[/tex]

[tex](x^2-9)^2=49[/tex]

[tex]x^2-9=7[/tex]

[tex]x^2=16 \rightarrow{}x=4 \ or \ x=-4[/tex]

(Whew)Regards.
 
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[sp]I found solutions $(x,y) = (\pm4,3),\ (\pm4,5)$. I will look at mente oscura's solution to see if it can be adapted to show that these are the only solutions.[/sp]
Further thoughts:
[sp]The left side of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2 = 16y+1$ is positive, so $y$ must be positive. Let $x-y = k$. Then the equation becomes $k^2(2y-k)^2 = 16y+1.$

Case 1: $k>0$. If two positive integers have a given sum (which in this case will be $2y$) then their product is minimised by taking one of them equal to $1$ and the other to be $2y-1$. So the minimum value of $k(2y-k)$ is $2y-1$, and therefore $k^2(2y-k)^2 \geqslant (2y-1)^2$. Thus $ (2y-1)^2 \leqslant 16y+1$. That simplifies to $y^2 \leqslant 5y$, so that $y \leqslant 5$.

Case 2: $k<0$. In this case, let $r=-k$, so that the equation becomes $r^2(2y+r)^2 = 16y+1$. This time, $r$ is a positive integer, so that $r(2y+r) > 2y$ and hence $r^2(2y+r)^2 > 4y^2$. Thus $4y^2 < 16y+1$ from which it follows that $y\leqslant4.$

This shows that there are no solutions with $y>5$.

BUT ...

in a PM, anemone pointed out that I overlooked the solutions $(x,y) = (\pm1,0)$. So altogether there are six solutions $(\pm1,0), (\pm4,3), (\pm4,5)$.[/sp]
 
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mente oscura said:
Hello.

Missing me "thank you" button, anemone :eek:

1º) [tex]3|y[/tex]

Demonstration:

1.1) [tex]If \ 3|x,y \rightarrow{}3|(16y+1) \cancel{=}3k \ / \forall{} k \in{\mathbb{Z}}[/tex]. Absurdity.

1.2) [tex]If \ 3|x \ or \ 3|y \ or \ [/tex][tex]3 \cancel{| } \ x,y[/tex][tex] \rightarrow{} (x^2-y^2)^2 \equiv{1 } mod(3)[/tex]

Hello.

Opalg, actually, I have an error.(Headbang)

[tex]3 \cancel{| } \ x,y[/tex] \rightarrow{} (x^2-y^2)^2 \equiv{0 } mod(3)[/tex]

It also fulfils the conditions:

[tex]x= \pm 4 \ and \ y=5[/tex]

Regards.

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Opalg said:
[sp]I found solutions $(x,y) = (\pm4,3),\ (\pm4,5)$. I will look at mente oscura's solution to see if it can be adapted to show that these are the only solutions.[/sp]
Further thoughts:
[sp]The left side of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2 = 16y+1$ is positive, so $y$ must be positive. Let $x-y = k$. Then the equation becomes $k^2(2y-k)^2 = 16y+1.$

Case 1: $k>0$. If two positive integers have a given sum (which in this case will be $2y$) then their product is minimised by taking one of them equal to $1$ and the other to be $2y-1$. So the minimum value of $k(2y-k)$ is $2y-1$, and therefore $k^2(2y-k)^2 \geqslant (2y-1)^2$. Thus $ (2y-1)^2 \leqslant 16y+1$. That simplifies to $y^2 \leqslant 5y$, so that $y \leqslant 5$.

Case 2: $k<0$. In this case, let $r=-k$, so that the equation becomes $r^2(2y+r)^2 = 16y+1$. This time, $r$ is a positive integer, so that $r(2y+r) > 2y$ and hence $r^2(2y+r)^2 > 4y^2$. Thus $4y^2 < 16y+1$ from which it follows that $y\leqslant4.$

This shows that there are no solutions with $y>5$.

BUT ...

in a PM, anemone pointed out that I overlooked the solutions $(x,y) = (\pm1,0)$. So altogether there are six solutions $(\pm1,0), (\pm4,3), (\pm4,5)$.[/sp]

Correct.:eek:
 
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Opalg said:
[sp]I found solutions $(x,y) = (\pm4,3),\ (\pm4,5)$. I will look at mente oscura's solution to see if it can be adapted to show that these are the only solutions.[/sp]
Further thoughts:
[sp]The left side of the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2 = 16y+1$ is positive, so $y$ must be positive. Let $x-y = k$. Then the equation becomes $k^2(2y-k)^2 = 16y+1.$

Case 1: $k>0$. If two positive integers have a given sum (which in this case will be $2y$) then their product is minimised by taking one of them equal to $1$ and the other to be $2y-1$. So the minimum value of $k(2y-k)$ is $2y-1$, and therefore $k^2(2y-k)^2 \geqslant (2y-1)^2$. Thus $ (2y-1)^2 \leqslant 16y+1$. That simplifies to $y^2 \leqslant 5y$, so that $y \leqslant 5$.

Case 2: $k<0$. In this case, let $r=-k$, so that the equation becomes $r^2(2y+r)^2 = 16y+1$. This time, $r$ is a positive integer, so that $r(2y+r) > 2y$ and hence $r^2(2y+r)^2 > 4y^2$. Thus $4y^2 < 16y+1$ from which it follows that $y\leqslant4.$

This shows that there are no solutions with $y>5$.

BUT ...

in a PM, anemone pointed out that I overlooked the solutions $(x,y) = (\pm1,0)$. So altogether there are six solutions $(\pm1,0), (\pm4,3), (\pm4,5)$.[/sp]

Thank you Opalg for your elegant,neat and easy-to-follow solution! Well done!:)

mente oscura said:
Hello.

Opalg, actually, I have an error.(Headbang)

[tex]3 \cancel{| } \ x,y[/tex] \rightarrow{} (x^2-y^2)^2 \equiv{0 } mod(3)[/tex]

It also fulfils the conditions:

[tex]x= \pm 4 \ and \ y=5[/tex]

Regards.

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Correct.:eek:

Don't worry about it, mente oscura! We live and learn!:eek:
 

Related to Integer Solutions: $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$

1. What is an integer solution?

An integer solution is a set of values for the variables in a mathematical equation that result in whole numbers as the solution. In other words, the values of the variables must be integers (positive and negative whole numbers) in order for the equation to be satisfied.

2. What is the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$?

The equation $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$ is a quadratic equation in two variables, x and y. It is a special type of quadratic equation known as a "binomial squared" equation, where the binomial (x^2-y^2) is squared.

3. How many solutions does the equation $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$ have?

This equation has an infinite number of integer solutions. This is because for any integer value of y, there will be a corresponding integer value of x that satisfies the equation. Therefore, the equation has an infinite number of solutions.

4. What are some examples of integer solutions for $(x^2-y^2)^2=1+16y$?

Some examples of integer solutions for this equation are (0,1), (3,4), (-3,-4), (4,3), (-4,-3), (5,6), (-5,-6), etc. Essentially, any pair of integers that satisfy the equation can be considered an integer solution.

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