Integer Find x,y for $y^2+2y=x^4+20x^3+104x^2+40x+2003$

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In summary, an integer is a whole number that can be positive, negative, or zero. To find x and y in an equation, you must solve for each variable by manipulating the equation using algebraic operations. The purpose of finding x and y in this equation is to determine the values of x and y that satisfy the equation and make it true, which is important in understanding and solving mathematical problems. The numbers in the equation represent coefficients and constants that affect the values of x and y, determining the shape and position of the graph of the equation. Finding x and y is not the only way to solve this equation, as there are various methods such as using the quadratic formula, graphing, and numerical methods.
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Find all solutions in integers $x,y$ of the equation $y^2+2y= x^4+20x^3+104x^2 + 40x + 2003$
 
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kaliprasad said:
Find all solutions in integers $x,y$ of the equation $y^2+2y= x^4+20x^3+104x^2 + 40x + 2003-----(1)$
let $p=x^2+10x=x(x+10)-----(2)$
from (1) we have :$y(y+2)=p^2+4p+2003$
$\therefore (y+1)^2=p^2+4p+2004---(3)$
from $(2):x^2+10x-p=0---(4)$
for $x,y$ both are intgers we get :$p>0,$ and $p$ may take values from the following lists:
$11(1\times 11),24(2\times 12),39(3\times 13),----,119(7\times 17)----,n\times (n+10)$
from $(3) : p^2+4p+2004$ is a perfect square
we may assume $p^2+4p+2004=(p+10)^2\rightarrow p=119$
hence $(x,y)=(7,128) \, (7,-130)$
or $(x,y)=(-17,128) \, (-17,-130)$
 
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Albert said:
let $p=x^2+10x=x(x+10)-----(2)$
from (1) we have :$y(y+2)=p^2+4p+2003$
$\therefore (y+1)^2=p^2+4p+2004---(3)$
from $(2):x^2+10x-p=0---(4)$
for $x,y$ both are intgers we get :$p>0,$ and $p$ may take values from the following lists:
$11(1\times 11),24(2\times 12),39(3\times 13),----,119(7\times 17)----,n\times (n+10)$
from $(3) : p^2+4p+2004$ is a perfect square
we may assume $p^2+4p+2004=(p+10)^2\rightarrow p=119$
hence $(x,y)=(7,128) \, (7,-130)$
or $(x,y)=(-17,128) \, (-17,-130)$

Though the ans is right but

we may assume $p^2+4p+2004=(p+10)^2\rightarrow p=119$
is a weak assumption and some solutions could have been missing
 
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kaliprasad said:
Though the ans is right but

we may assume $p^2+4p+2004=(p+10)^2\rightarrow p=119$
is a weak assumption and some solutions could have been missing
in fact we can set:$p^2+4p+2004=(p+k)^2$
here $k$ must be even and $2< k \leq 44$, and $p=n(n+10), n\geq 1$
and we obtain :$p=n(n+10)=\dfrac {2004-k^2}{2k-4}---(*)$
the only solution for $(*)$ is $k=10, p=119$
 
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My solution
Add 1 to both sides to get
$(y+1)^2 = x^4+20x^3+104x^2+40x+2004 = x^4+20x^3+ 104x^2+40x+ 4 + 2000 = (x^2+10x+2)^2 +2000$
or $(y+1)^2 - (x^2+10x+2)^2 = 2000$
for the above to have solution we need to have $(y+1)$ and $(x^2+10x+2)$ both should be even or odd and as $(x^2+10x+2) = (x+5)^2-23$ so
the $2^{nd}$ number with need to be 23 less than a perfect square.
so let us find (t,z) which are $(\pm501,\pm499),(\pm252,\pm248),(\pm129,\pm121),(\pm105,\pm95),(\pm60,\pm40),(\pm45,\pm5)$ out of which
only z = 121 which 23 less than is a perfect square
so we get
$y+1= \pm 129, (x+5) = \pm 12$ giving 4 solutions ($y=-130, x = - 17$), ($y= -130,x= 7$), ($y=128,x=7$),($y= 128, x= -17$)
 
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Related to Integer Find x,y for $y^2+2y=x^4+20x^3+104x^2+40x+2003$

1. What is an integer?

An integer is a whole number that can be positive, negative, or zero.

2. How do you find x and y in an equation?

To find x and y in an equation, you must solve for each variable by manipulating the equation using algebraic operations such as addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.

3. What is the purpose of finding x and y in this specific equation?

The purpose of finding x and y in this equation is to determine the values of x and y that satisfy the equation and make it true. This is important in understanding and solving mathematical problems.

4. What is the significance of the numbers in the equation (y^2+2y=x^4+20x^3+104x^2+40x+2003)?

The numbers in the equation represent coefficients and constants that affect the values of x and y. These numbers determine the shape and position of the graph of the equation.

5. Is finding x and y the only way to solve this equation?

No, there are various methods to solve this equation. One way is to use the quadratic formula, while another is to graph the equation and find the intersection points. Additionally, you can use numerical methods such as iteration or approximation to find the solutions.

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