Inner product of dirac delta function

You can't use it to form "inner products".In summary, the problem at hand involves finding the inner product of two functions, f(x) = σ(x-x0) and g(x) = cos(x). The relevant equation to use is ∫f(x)*g(x)dx, with limits of integration from -∞ to ∞. However, there seems to be some confusion about the correct notation for the Dirac delta function, which should be written as δ(x-x0) instead of σ(x-x0). It is important to note that the Dirac delta is not a traditional function, but rather a distribution. Therefore, it cannot be used to form inner products.
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leroyjenkens
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Homework Statement



Find the inner product of f(x) = σ(x-x0) and g(x) = cos(x)

Homework Equations



∫f(x)*g(x)dx

Limits of integration are -∞ to ∞

The Attempt at a Solution



First of all, what is the complex conjugate of σ(x-x0)? Is it just σ(x-x0)?

And I'm not sure how to multiply f(x) and g(x) together. Do I just pick out a value of x0 that will make the dirac delta disappear and be left with the cos(x0)?
Thanks
 
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What is ##\sigma(x-x_0)##? Did you mean ##\delta(x-x_0)##?

If so, the problem involves nothing more than the definition of the Dirac delta distribution. So perhaps you should write down that definition here, since it seems to be missing from your "relevant equations" section.
 
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strangerep said:
What is ##\sigma(x-x_0)##? Did you mean ##\delta(x-x_0)##?

If so, the problem involves nothing more than the definition of the Dirac delta distribution. So perhaps you should write down that definition here, since it seems to be missing from your "relevant equations" section.

edit: Oh, I was using sigma and I was supposed to be using delta; hence the "delta" function. They look similar.

The dirac delta function just picks out the value of x that makes x - x0 = 0, and in that case, the function equals 1.

So basically, this problem is just a normal integral, since there's no complex conjugate of the dirac delta function?

Thanks.
 
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leroyjenkens said:
The dirac delta function just picks out the value of x that makes x - x0 = 0,
That's the effect of the dirac delta when integrated against another function.
and in that case, the function equals 1.
I don't know which "function" you're referring to here, but I'm reasonably sure you still have some misconceptions about the Dirac delta (since you're still calling it a "function", or so it seems).

Take a look at the Dirac delta Wiki page. In particular the section titled "As a distribution". The distinction between "distribution" and "ordinary function" is very important for doing anything nontrivial with the Dirac delta.

So basically, this problem is just a normal integral
For simple cases, you can get away with thinking of it like that. But for less trivial stuff, you must understand the concept of "distribution" mentioned above.

there's no complex conjugate of the dirac delta function?
It's incorrect to say there's "no complex conjugate". Rather the Dirac delta is its own conjugate (like a real number).
 
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for your question. I would like to clarify a few things before providing a response.

Firstly, the inner product is typically defined for functions in a vector space, where the functions are considered as vectors and the inner product is a way to measure the angle between these vectors. However, in this context, it seems like we are dealing with the inner product in the context of Hilbert spaces, where the inner product is defined for functions but also has a more general definition.

Now, coming to the problem at hand, the inner product of two functions f(x) and g(x) in the context of Hilbert spaces is defined as ∫f(x)*g(x)dx, where the limits of integration are from -∞ to ∞. In this case, the functions f(x) and g(x) are σ(x-x0) and cos(x), respectively.

To answer your first question, the complex conjugate of σ(x-x0) would be σ*(x-x0). This is because the Dirac delta function is considered as a distribution and its complex conjugate is defined in terms of its action on test functions.

As for multiplying f(x) and g(x) together, we do not pick a value of x0 to make the Dirac delta function disappear. Instead, we use the properties of the Dirac delta function to simplify the calculation. In this case, we can use the property ∫f(x)*δ(x-x0)dx = f(x0) to simplify the inner product, as follows:

∫f(x)*g(x)dx = ∫σ(x-x0)*cos(x)dx
= ∫σ(x-x0)*cos(x)*δ(x-x0)dx (using the property above)
= cos(x0)*σ(x-x0)*∫δ(x-x0)dx (using the linearity of the integral)
= cos(x0)*σ(x-x0)*1 (since ∫δ(x-x0)dx = 1 by definition of the Dirac delta function)
= cos(x0)*σ(x-x0)

Therefore, the inner product of f(x) and g(x) is cos(x0)*σ(x-x0). I hope this helps to clarify the problem and the approach to solving it.
 

Related to Inner product of dirac delta function

1. What is the inner product of the Dirac delta function?

The inner product of the Dirac delta function is a mathematical operation used to measure the similarity or orthogonality of two functions. It is defined as the integral of one function multiplied by the complex conjugate of the other function. In the case of the Dirac delta function, it is defined as the integral of the Dirac delta function squared.

2. How is the inner product of the Dirac delta function used in physics?

The inner product of the Dirac delta function is used in physics to represent the overlap or correlation between two quantum states. It is commonly used in quantum mechanics to calculate transition probabilities and to describe the behavior of particles in different states.

3. Can the inner product of the Dirac delta function be negative?

No, the inner product of the Dirac delta function is always a positive real number. This is because the Dirac delta function is a non-negative function and its complex conjugate is equal to itself. Therefore, the integral of the product of these two functions will always result in a positive value.

4. How does the inner product of the Dirac delta function relate to the Kronecker delta function?

The inner product of the Dirac delta function is closely related to the Kronecker delta function, which is a discrete version of the Dirac delta function. Both functions represent a discrete or continuous identity element, and the inner product of the Dirac delta function can be thought of as the continuous version of the Kronecker delta function.

5. What is the significance of the inner product of the Dirac delta function in signal processing?

The inner product of the Dirac delta function is commonly used in signal processing to measure the similarity or correlation between two signals. It is used to calculate the power spectral density of a signal and can be used to identify the presence of certain frequencies in a signal. Additionally, the inner product of the Dirac delta function is used in the formulation of the Fourier transform, which is an essential tool in signal processing.

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