Induction Proofs & Negative Proofs: Examining POTW 135

In summary, the conversation discusses the logic behind a problem involving factors and an odd number, and the possibility of using induction in a negative proof. It is suggested to use a cleaner solution that eliminates the need for induction, but it is clarified that the principle of induction can be applied to negative statements as well. The issue with using induction in a proof that $n$ is not equal to 3 for all natural numbers is not due to the negativity of the statement, but rather the failure of the inductive step.
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This is in reference to a POTW, http://mathhelpboards.com/potw-secondary-school-high-school-students-35/problem-week-135-october-27th-2014-a-12786.html.

The logic behind this problem is simple, the number \(\displaystyle 2^{2^x}\) can only have factors of 2. But \(\displaystyle (n + 1)^3 - 1\) contains an odd factor. Great. Works for me.

But how can we consider an induction on this? Every induction proof I've ever run across starts with a "positive" statement... there is some number k such that the statement holds. How can we do an induction that starts with the statement "This is not possible" and continues with "Therefore this other case can't hold either."

As a (ridiculous) example of this, take the statement "x is equal to 3." Base case: k = 1: Thus k is not equal to 3. Induction case: k + 1 is also not equal to three. Thus there is no case that x = 3.

I understand that the above "proof" is, as I said, ridiculous. But it strikes to the heart of my confusion. How do we eliminate "negative proofs" of this kind in general?

-Dan
 
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In reference to the POTW, a cleaner solution would probably be to show $y^3 - 1 = (y - 1)(y^2 + y + 1) $ contains an odd factor regardless the parity of $y$. This get rid of the need of induction.

However, the principle of induction is just for a predicate, or property, $P(x)$ to hold for $P(0)$ and that $P(k) \Rightarrow P(k+1)$. $P$ in this case can certainly be a negative statement.

The problem of the induction "proof" of $n \neq 3$ for all $n \in \Bbb{N}$ is not because the predicate $P(x)$ is negative. It is that the inductive step fails. If $n \neq 3$, there is no logical step that will lead to the conclusion of $n + 1 \neq 3$. (It is false for $n = 2$.)
 

Related to Induction Proofs & Negative Proofs: Examining POTW 135

What is an induction proof?

An induction proof is a type of mathematical proof used to show that a statement or formula holds true for all natural numbers. It involves breaking down the proof into smaller cases and showing that the statement holds true for the first case (usually 0 or 1) and then showing that if the statement holds true for a particular case, it also holds true for the next case.

How is an induction proof different from other types of proofs?

An induction proof is different from other types of proofs because it relies on the principle of mathematical induction, which states that if a statement is true for a particular case and also holds true for the next case, then it must hold true for all subsequent cases. This allows for a more streamlined and efficient way of proving statements.

What is a negative proof?

A negative proof is a type of mathematical proof used to show that a statement is false. It involves assuming that the statement is true and then using logical reasoning to reach a contradiction, thereby proving that the statement is actually false.

How do negative proofs relate to induction proofs?

Negative proofs and induction proofs are closely related because they both use logical reasoning to prove statements. In fact, a negative proof can be used to disprove a statement that was previously proven using an induction proof. This allows for a more comprehensive examination of mathematical statements.

How can induction proofs and negative proofs be applied in real-world situations?

Induction proofs and negative proofs are commonly used in various fields of science and mathematics, such as computer science, physics, and statistics. They can be used to prove theorems, validate mathematical models, and identify errors in algorithms. In the real world, these types of proofs are essential for ensuring the accuracy and reliability of scientific findings and technological advancements.

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