Math is said to be a superset of physics

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In summary, there is debate over whether or not math is a superset of physics and if geometry, a subset of math, can be considered a superset of physics. While there are some overlaps between the two fields, they are separate and distinct disciplines. Some argue that physics is a branch of mathematics, while others believe that physics is the science of renaming geometric entities. Ultimately, the relationship between math and physics is complex and constantly evolving.
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Math is said to be a superset of physics. Can geometry then, a subset of mathematics, be formally considered a superset of physics?
 
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Erm... no?

Mathematics isn't a superset of physics. The study of maths is a separate vocation that while closely related to physics and in many ways interlinked, does not bear the relation you ascribe.

The way I see it:

Maths is the set containing Applied Maths and Pure Maths

Physics contains subsets that are also in Applied Maths.

Physics and Maths hence overlap in terms of applied maths, but are both on the same level.
 
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Originally posted by Loren Booda
Math is said to be a superset of physics. Can geometry then, a subset of mathematics, be formally considered a superset of physics?

I have never heard of a formal definitions of "a" physics along the line of what we can identify as "a" geometry... Nevertheless I believe that almost always we have understood physics only when we have identified a specific geometry whose renamed entities are now physical observables. That is to say physics is the science/art of renaming geometric entities!

How many physical laws are just physical interpretations of mathematical theorems?
 
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Who said "math is a superset of physics"? I would suspect that he knew neither math nor physics well.
 
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Alexander?
 
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Oh, well, Alexander! Now it makes sense!


(Alexander who??)
 
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David Alexander?
 
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Alexander the PF2 veteran who claimed maths was the causal event for the universe.

Nah, I wouldn't think he would say that. At most he will just claim that Maths IS Physics.
 

1. What does it mean for math to be a superset of physics?

It means that the concepts and principles of mathematics are used to understand and describe the laws of physics. Math provides a framework for analyzing and solving problems in physics.

2. Why is math considered a superset of physics?

Math is considered a superset of physics because it is the language in which the laws of physics can be expressed and understood. Many physical phenomena can be described using mathematical equations and formulas.

3. How does math help in understanding physics?

Math helps in understanding physics by providing tools to analyze and solve complex problems. It allows us to make precise measurements, create models and simulations, and make predictions about the behavior of physical systems.

4. Can physics exist without math?

No, physics cannot exist without math. Math is the foundation of physics and is essential for understanding and describing the natural world. Without math, it would be challenging to make accurate predictions and explanations about physical phenomena.

5. What are some examples of how math is used in physics?

Math is used in physics in various ways, such as calculating the trajectory of a projectile, predicting the behavior of particles in a fluid, and describing the motion of objects in space. Math is also used to derive equations and laws that govern different aspects of physics, such as Newton's laws of motion and Einstein's theory of relativity.

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