Identity of the metal in a particular sulfate salt

In summary, three students were asked to identify the metal in a particular sulfate salt by dissolving and treating it with barium chloride. After analyzing the data, each student came to a different conclusion, suggesting that the metal could be sodium, titanium, or gallium. To determine the most likely correct answer, further chemical tests could be performed. However, the accuracy of the data is uncertain as it may not be from a reagent grade sample.
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sid_galt
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Three Students were asked to find the identity of the metal in a particular sulfate salt. They dissolved a 0.1472-g sample of the salt in water adn treated it with excess barium chloride, resulting in the precipitation of barium sulfate. After teh precipitate had been filtered and dried, it weighed 0.2327 g.
Each student analyzed the data independently and came to different conclusions.
The conclusions were that the metal is sodium, titanium or gallium. What further tests you suggest to determine which student is most likely correct.


This is how I tried to tackle the problem. Since the precipitate is BaSO4 and weighs .2327 g, calculating the molar mass of BaSO4, the no. of moles of precipitate I get is 9.97129E-4 mol. Thus the sulfate ions are 9.97129E-4 mol. Since no. of moles of sulfate cannot change during reaction, when the sulphur is combined with the metal, then too it is in the quantity 9.97129E-4 mol which means it has mass 0.09579 g which means that mass of metal is 0.051405 g

If the metal has valency 1, then no. of moles of metal is 2*9.97E-4 mol
If the metal has valency 2, then no. of moles of metal is 9.97E-4 mol
If the metal has valency 3, then no. of moles of metal is 9.97E-4*2/3 mol

Taking each possibility into account, I get as molar mass
for metal valency 1, 25.77 g/mol
for metal valency 2, 51.55 g/mol
for metal valency 3, 77.329 g/mol

None of these molar masses correspond to any metal. Where am I going wrong?
 
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I hope you realize that your calculation, while a good thing to do, is irrelevant to the question.

valency=1 :
[tex]M_2SO_4 + BaCl_2 \longrightarrow 2MCl + BaSO_4 [/tex]

Mol. Wt. of BaSO4 is about 233g/mol, so there's about 0.001 moles of BaSO4 formed. Here, 1 mole of M2SO4 gives 1 mole of BaSO4, so there must have been about 0.001 moles of M2SO4. Hence the Mol. Wt. of M2SO4 should be about 147 g/mol. This sets the atomic wt. of M at about 25. The nearest monovalent metal is Na at 23.

valency = 2 :

[tex]MSO_4 + BaCl_2 \longrightarrow MCl_2 + BaSO_4 [/tex]
1 mole of MSO4 gives 1 mole of BaSO4. So, there must be 0.001 moles of MSO4 again. This sets the atomic weight of M at about 50 g/mol. Ti is often bivalent and has atomic mass 49. V is rarely bivalent (usually trivalent or pentavalent).

valency = 3 :
[tex]M_2(SO_4)_3 + 3BaCl_2 \longrightarrow 2MCl_3 + 3BaSO_4 [/tex]
1 mole of M2(SO4)3 gives 3 moles of BaSO4, so, there must have been about 0.00033 moles of M2(SO4)3. So, the mol. wt. of M2(SO4)3 would be about 426 g/mol. This requires the atomic weight of M to be about 69, and Ga, is the closest trivalent element at about 70.

Now, as for the real question...it wants you to perform chemical tests to determine which of these possibilities is the more likely answer.
 
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Gokul43201 said:
I hope you realize that your calculation, while a good thing to do, is irrelevant to the question.

I know it does not hold much relevance. I was just trying to analyze the data on my own and was surprised by the large discrepancy between my results and the book's. Like my valency 1 metal had molar mass more than 25 g/mol.
 
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sid_galt said:
I know it does not hold much relevance. I was just trying to analyze the data on my own and was surprised by the large discrepancy between my results and the book's. Like my valency 1 metal had molar mass more than 25 g/mol.

In the real world that will be perfectly normal. Nobody told that the sample was reagent grade so whole analysis is somewhat approximate. 1g out of 25g is 4% error - which is rather good considering the situation.

Now, most textbooks authors 'forget' about the real world and numbers they give are absurdally accurate. In this particular case if the data was too accurate whole question will make no sense as the answer will be obvious :smile:
 
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In "the real world" your answer would most likely be sodium...least expensive.
 

Related to Identity of the metal in a particular sulfate salt

1. What is the identity of the metal in a particular sulfate salt?

The identity of the metal in a sulfate salt can be determined by conducting a series of tests such as flame tests, solubility tests, and spectroscopic analysis. These tests can help identify the type of metal present in the salt.

2. How can I determine the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt at home?

Unfortunately, it is not possible to accurately determine the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt at home without proper equipment and knowledge. It is best to consult a professional chemist or take the salt to a laboratory for analysis.

3. Can the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt change over time?

No, the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt does not change over time. However, the salt may undergo chemical reactions that could alter its appearance or properties.

4. Are there any specific properties that can help identify the metal in a sulfate salt?

Yes, the color of the flame produced during a flame test and the solubility of the salt in water are some of the properties that can help identify the metal in a sulfate salt.

5. Why is it important to know the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt?

Knowing the identity of the metal in a sulfate salt is important for various reasons. It can help in understanding the properties and behavior of the salt, identifying potential uses in industries, and ensuring the safety of handling and storing the salt.

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