Ideal gas temperature and 2nd law TD

In summary, the problem is asking to demonstrate the relationship between the ideal gas temperature TI(T) and the absolute temperature T by using the ideal gas equation and relevant thermodynamic equations. The specific approach may involve using the first law of thermodynamics and Maxwell relationships.
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Homework Statement



As an application of TD and to demonstrate the power of the formalism of differential forms,
show that if one defines the ideal gas temperature TI (T) from the ideal gas equation

p V = N KB TI(T);

this is related to the absolute temperature T (from the second law) by
TI (T) ~ T

Homework Equations



the internal energy U=U(T)

dS= δQ / T

d2S/dVdT = d2S/dTdV

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm having difficulty on how to start the problem and what I'm supposed to be doing. Any direction will be appreciated. =)

thanks
 
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What is "TD"? You should always define all acronyms you use, as you can't be sure they're common and everyone will know what you mean.

Since your problem talks about differential forms, you'll probably need to use something like the first law in the form ##dU = \delta Q - p dV##, together with the other "relevant equations" you have.
 
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TD is thermodynamics

what is TI(T) though (Ideal temperature?) er... these are the same things (or have always been treated as such when I took graduate thermo) if T doesn't fit the model it's because the ideal model itself failed (reasonable since it has some big assumptions) so what ... they want you to make TI = T by showing for some set of assumptions TI = T? Most likely by using maxwell relationships (or formalism). just my guess.
 
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Related to Ideal gas temperature and 2nd law TD

1. What is an ideal gas?

An ideal gas is a theoretical gas that follows the ideal gas law, which describes the relationship between pressure, volume, temperature, and number of moles of a gas. It is assumed to have no intermolecular forces and negligible volume compared to the container it is in.

2. How is temperature related to an ideal gas?

The temperature of an ideal gas is directly proportional to its average kinetic energy. This means that as the temperature increases, the particles in the gas move faster and have more energy.

3. What is the second law of thermodynamics?

The second law of thermodynamics states that heat will spontaneously flow from a hotter object to a colder object, never the other way around. This is also known as the law of entropy, which states that the overall disorder and randomness of a system will always increase over time.

4. How does the second law of thermodynamics apply to ideal gases?

The second law of thermodynamics applies to ideal gases by stating that the temperature of a gas will always decrease when it expands without any external work being done on it. This is because the gas molecules are spreading out and doing work on their surroundings, resulting in a decrease in temperature.

5. Can an ideal gas violate the second law of thermodynamics?

No, an ideal gas cannot violate the second law of thermodynamics. The second law is a fundamental law of nature and applies to all systems, including ideal gases. While an ideal gas may seem to violate the second law by cooling down when expanding, this is simply the result of work being done on the gas and the overall increase in disorder in the system.

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