How to know when to use Voc/Isc or Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

In summary, the conversation discusses the application of test sources and dependent sources in a circuit. It raises the question of whether one should only use test sources when there are independent sources present in the circuit and if it is valid to zero out dependent sources and only use test sources. The conversation also mentions the confusion of applying open and short circuit conditions when a test source should be used, and asks for a systematic approach to determine when to use which method. Additionally, the conversation touches on the use of other methods, such as a test source, when there are dependent sources present in the circuit.
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should you only apply the test sources when there are only independant sources in the circuit. Also would it be valid to zero all dependant source so that you are only left with independant sources and then apply the test source. It seems like i am always applying open and short circuit conditions when i should be applying a test source and vice versa :( Is the any systematic approach i can take to know when to apply what?
 
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Do you have a couple of sample circuits that you have done? If I recall correctly, if there are any dependent sources in the circuit, then you cannot "zero out" sources to find the Thévenin equivalent, and must use another method, such as a test source.
 

Related to How to know when to use Voc/Isc or Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

1. What is the difference between Voc/Isc and Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

Voc/Isc refers to the open circuit voltage and short circuit current, respectively, of a Thevenin equivalent circuit. Vtest/Itest, on the other hand, refers to the voltage and current values obtained by using a test source in the Thevenin equivalent circuit.

2. When should I use Voc/Isc instead of Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

Voc/Isc is typically used when analyzing the Thevenin equivalent circuit in a theoretical or ideal case, whereas Vtest/Itest is used in practical applications where real-world factors such as resistance and load are present.

3. How do I determine when to use Voc/Isc or Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

The decision to use Voc/Isc or Vtest/Itest depends on the specific situation and the level of accuracy required. Generally, if you are looking for a more precise analysis of the circuit, using Vtest/Itest would be more appropriate. However, if you are looking for a quick estimation, using Voc/Isc may be sufficient.

4. Can I use both Voc/Isc and Vtest/Itest for Thevenin in the same circuit?

Yes, it is possible to use both Voc/Isc and Vtest/Itest in the same circuit. However, it is important to note that the values obtained from each method may be different due to the different factors involved.

5. Are there any limitations to using Voc/Isc or Vtest/Itest for Thevenin?

Both Voc/Isc and Vtest/Itest have their own limitations. Voc/Isc may not accurately reflect the behavior of the circuit in real-world conditions, while Vtest/Itest may not be suitable for complex circuits with multiple sources. It is important to understand the limitations of each method and choose the appropriate one for the specific circuit being analyzed.

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