How to get the coefficient of kinetic friction

In summary, the homework statement is trying to solve for the work done by friction between two blocks in an inclined plane. One block is shown on the horizontal surface, but an additional block is added on the inclined plane. The value for the spring extension is incorrect, and the block never slid all the way to the bottom.
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Fatima Hasan
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


W = ΔUg + ΔkE + ΔUs
KE = 0.5 m v^2
Ug = m g h
Us = 0.5 k x^2

The Attempt at a Solution


k = 60 N/m vi=0 m/s (" the block is released from rest ") xi= 0 m/s ( "the spring is unstreached") vf= 0 m/s xf= 0.2 * sin 37 = 0.2*0.6 = 0.12 m d= 0.2 m hf=0 hi= 0.2*sin37 = 0.12m m= 2 kg μκ = ?
W = Fκ d cos θ
Fk = FN μk
Fk = mg cos θ ( mg must be decompose)
Fk = 2*10*0.8 = 16 N
so , W = 16 * 0.2 * cos 180 * μκ = - 3.2 μκ
W = ΔUg + ΔkE + ΔUs
since the velocity is constant , ΔkE = 0 --> W = Δ Us + ΔUg
- 3.2 μκ = 0.5 k xf^2 - 0.5 * k xi^2 + mghf - mghi
- 3.2 μκ = 0.5 * 60 * ( 0 )^2 - 0.5*60*( 0.12 )^2 + 2*10*0 - 2*10*0.12
- 3.2 μκ = -0.432 - 2.4
- 3.2 μκ = -2.832
μκ = 0.885
This is my tried , but I don't know where is my mistake.
Any help would be greatly appreciated !
 

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The statement of the problem mentions one block on the incline, but the figure shows an additional block on the horizontal surface. Are we to assume that this second block has the same mass as the first one? What about friction between it and the horizontal surface?
 
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kuruman said:
The statement of the problem mentions one block on the incline, but the figure shows an additional block on the horizontal surface. Are we to assume that this second block has the same mass as the first one? What about friction between it and the horizontal surface?
I think it's the same object , the block was on the horizontal surface and then it falls down on an incline plane as it shown in the figure.
I calculated the work done by the frictional force . W = Fκ d cos θ , Fκ = FN μκ , since the block will move on the incline , we should decompose mg into its components . So, Fk = μκ * mg cos θ ( the angle between the frictional force and the displacement = 37° )
 
  • #4
Fatima Hasan said:
- 3.2 μκ = 0.5 * 60 * ( 0 )^2 - 0.5*60*( 0.12 )^2 + 2*10*0 - 2*10*0.12
You have used the wrong value for the spring extension.

The diagram is very strange. The block is never on the horizontal surface.
 
  • #5
haruspex said:
You have used the wrong value for the spring extension.

The diagram is very strange. The block is never on the horizontal surface.
So , ΔUs = 0, because the spring extension isn't change ?
 
  • #6
Fatima Hasan said:
So , ΔUs = 0, because the spring extension isn't change ?
No.
The spring is initially relaxed. How far does the block slide? What is the change in the spring extension?
 
  • #7
haruspex said:
No.
The spring is initially relaxed. How far does the block slide? What is the change in the spring extension?
Got it , thank you .
 

Related to How to get the coefficient of kinetic friction

1. What is the coefficient of kinetic friction?

The coefficient of kinetic friction is a measure of the amount of friction between two surfaces in contact when one of the surfaces is in motion. It is denoted by the symbol μk and is a unitless quantity.

2. How do I calculate the coefficient of kinetic friction?

The coefficient of kinetic friction can be calculated by dividing the force of friction by the normal force between the two surfaces. This can be represented by the equation μk = Ff/FN, where Ff is the force of friction and FN is the normal force.

3. What affects the value of the coefficient of kinetic friction?

The coefficient of kinetic friction is affected by the nature of the two surfaces in contact, the roughness or smoothness of the surfaces, and the presence of any lubricants or other materials between the surfaces. Additionally, the coefficient of kinetic friction can vary with the speed and temperature of the surfaces.

4. How can I measure the coefficient of kinetic friction?

The coefficient of kinetic friction can be measured using a variety of methods, including using a friction coefficient tester, a ramp and block experiment, or a pendulum experiment. It is important to carefully control the variables and ensure accurate measurements in order to obtain an accurate value for the coefficient of kinetic friction.

5. What is the significance of the coefficient of kinetic friction?

The coefficient of kinetic friction is an important factor in understanding and predicting the behavior of objects in motion, such as in physics and engineering applications. It also plays a role in everyday activities, such as walking or driving, as it determines the amount of force needed to move an object over a surface.

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