How Many People Can Perform Quantum Mechanical Calculations?

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TL;DR Summary: Quantum mechanical calculations are complex and the number of people capable of performing them is limited. In this thread, rough estimates are requested for the number of people that perform quantum mechanical calculations.

Please estimate - somehow - the number of people that can perform quantum mechanical calculations, in a sub-field, on a problem, in a country or world wide, whatever is informative....

For orientation, here are American Institute of Physics statistics on PhDs in Physics granted vs year.
https://www.aip.org/statistics/reports/trends-physics-phds-171819

See Figure 1 Physics PhDs Conferred in the US, 1900 through 2019
See Figure 6 on Sub-Fields, See "Quantum Foundations"

Finding the number of Physics PhDs in the US in a sub-field related to Quantum Mechanics would be a start.

I would like to get a rough idea of how many people have a high level of knowledge of quantum mechanics calculations. In particular, when a particular problem is discussed how many people world wide are capable of doing the quantum mechanical calculations?

Then, finally to know in a sub-field and on a particular problem in quantum mechanics, how many people more locally can do the calculations?

Please include any comments on how you estimated, including the sub-field, problem, country, suggestions, links for evidence, etc..
 
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Chas Tennis said:
TL;DR Summary: Quantum mechanical calculations are complex and the number of people capable of performing them is limited. In this thread, rough estimates are requested for the number of people that perform quantum mechanical calculations.

Please estimate - somehow - the number of people that can perform quantum mechanical calculations, in a sub-field, on a problem, in a country or world wide, whatever is informative....

For orientation, here are American Institute of Physics statistics on PhDs in Physics granted vs year.
https://www.aip.org/statistics/reports/trends-physics-phds-171819

See Figure 1 Physics PhDs Conferred in the US, 1900 through 2019
See Figure 6 on Sub-Fields, See "Quantum Foundations"

Finding the number of Physics PhDs in the US in a sub-field related to Quantum Mechanics would be a start.

I would like to get a rough idea of how many people have a high level of knowledge of quantum mechanics calculations. In particular, when a particular problem is discussed how many people world wide are capable of doing the quantum mechanical calculations?

Then, finally to know in a sub-field and on a particular problem in quantum mechanics, how many people more locally can do the calculations?

Please include any comments on how you estimated, including the sub-field, problem, country, suggestions, links for evidence, etc..
May I ask why you would like to know? It sounds like a seriously intensive search, and liable to a lot of noisy data. Is there a specific kind of problem you would like to ask about? I mean, anyone that has even taken (not just passed) a Modern Physics course would qualify for your overall question, so just about any Physicist and most Engineers would be included, as well as anyone else with the Mathematical "backbone" who might have been curious enough to take the class, which is likely to include a significant fraction of Mathematicians. Then add in a (probably) good chunk of Biologists, most Chemists, anyone who has studied Nuclear Medicine... the list goes on and on.

At a (very) rough estimate, maybe some 40 percent of people that have gone to College have probably taken this course or some equivalent in their field. You aren't ever going to be able to track that without an enormous amount of work. Then you want to focus on who can do what sort of problem and where they might be? I hope some is paying to do this, because it's going to become a career!

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In the 1980s, a speaker at a conference said that 'There are 2000 engineers in the US that can design large scale integrated circuits.' I have always liked that crisp estimate.

I have been reading about the early history of quantum mechanics and wondering about the number of scientists and mathematicians involved at that time. For that history, I recommend the book Einstein and the Quantum (2013), A. Douglas Stone. The author emphasizes the period where Einstein was involved with QM, but did not publish much in QM.
 
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topsquark said:
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At a (very) rough estimate, maybe some 40 percent of people that have gone to College have probably taken this course or some equivalent in their field. You aren't ever going to be able to track that without an enormous amount of work. Then you want to focus on who can do what sort of problem and where they might be? I hope some is paying to do this, because it's going to become a career!

-Dan
Let's say that people that set up and worked QM problems would be counted.

Let's say that taking a QM course with provided problems would not be counted.
 
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You seem to switch between asking about the number who can and the number who do. I can, but I don't. Do I count?
 
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Chas Tennis said:
I would like to get a rough idea of how many people have a high level of knowledge of quantum mechanics calculations.
Why? Why do you care?
 
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Define "can perform quantum mechanical calculations".
 
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Haborix said:
You seem to switch between asking about the number who can and the number who do. I can, but I don't. Do I count?
You could post what you as an individual can do if you like, please give an example problem or two. Those examples would be very interesting.

If you mean
1) solving QM course or test problems that were presented to you
VS
2) your selecting what was needed and setting up QM calculations, note that.
 
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Chas Tennis said:
I have always liked that crisp estimate.
There are 11,348.

My estiimation methodology was to write down numbers on a piece of paper until I saw one that I liked, and then drew a box around it.
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
There are 11,348.

My estiimation methodology was to write down numbers on a piece of paper until I saw one that I liked, and then drew a box around it.
You would have us believe that it just so happens 1*(1+3+4)=8? Tell us your real methodology, sir!

On a more serious note, as @topsquark explained, without a very precise set of parameters we can all just start cooking up numbers. And even with those parameters, it would be very hard to get dig up all the data to get an answer.
 
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Can we take this question to the ministry of silly questions and get an opinion? Where is John Cleese when we really need him?
 
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1. What level of education is required to perform quantum mechanical calculations?

Typically, performing quantum mechanical calculations requires a solid foundation in physics and mathematics, usually at the level of a university degree in physics, chemistry, or a related field. Advanced studies, such as a master's degree or Ph.D., are often necessary for more complex calculations and research in quantum mechanics.

2. What are the basic skills needed to perform quantum mechanical calculations?

The basic skills needed include a strong understanding of linear algebra, differential equations, complex numbers, and probability theory. Proficiency in these areas is crucial as they form the mathematical backbone of quantum mechanics. Additionally, familiarity with scientific programming languages such as Python, particularly libraries like NumPy and SciPy, can be very helpful for performing computational calculations.

3. Are there specific software tools or programming languages recommended for quantum mechanical calculations?

Yes, there are several software tools and programming languages that are particularly useful in quantum mechanics. Programming languages like Python, MATLAB, and Fortran are commonly used. Software packages such as Mathematica, Maple, and specialized tools like Quantum Development Kit from Microsoft, Qiskit from IBM, and many others are designed to assist with quantum mechanical simulations and calculations.

4. How long does it take to learn to perform basic quantum mechanical calculations?

The time it takes can vary widely depending on the individual's background and the complexity of the calculations. For someone already proficient in advanced mathematics and physics, learning the basics of quantum mechanics might take a few months. However, mastering the skills to perform high-level quantum mechanical calculations can take several years of focused study and practice.

5. Can quantum mechanical calculations be self-taught, or is formal education necessary?

While basic concepts of quantum mechanics can be self-taught using books, online courses, and tutorials, formal education is highly recommended for deeper understanding and practical applications. Universities and research institutions provide structured learning environments, access to experienced mentors, and opportunities for hands-on research that are difficult to replicate through self-study alone.

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