How Do You Model a Damped Harmonic Oscillator with External Forces?

In summary, the conversation discusses the equations of motion for a system with a fixed black point, a force applied to the black point, and the black point's position as a function of time. The equations for a damped harmonic oscillator and a driven damped harmonic oscillator are considered, and the position of the mass is determined to be a function of time plus the natural length and elongation of the spring. The conversation also mentions resolving forces and the force from the spring.
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Homework Statement



Give the equations of motion of the following system:

http://www.jelp.org/imagenes/mech.jpg

Homework Equations



So, i assume the following cases (the diagram i so deficient).

1) Black Point (x1) is fixed
2) There's a force applied at x1 (black dot)
3) The position of the black dot is a function of time f(t).

The Attempt at a Solution



For 1) I think the equation of motion is:

http://www.texify.com/img/%5CLARGE%5C%21m%5Cddot%7Bx%7D%2Bkx%2BG%5Cdot%7Bx%7D%3D0.gif

It's a dampeda harmonic oscillator, Right?

2) If a force f(t) is applied to the system, then we have :

http://www.texify.com/img/%5CLARGE%5C%21m%5Cddot%7Bx%7D%2Bkx%2BG%5Cdot%7Bx%7D%3DF%28t%29.gif

like the Damped and driven harmonic oscillator, am i right?

3) If by example, the full system (the damper too) is moving to the left (i.e. negative X).

For this, i tried the following:

The position of the mass is X=f(t)+L+lo , where L is the natural length of the spring, lo is the elongation or strecht of the spring. Then, taking the time derivatives of X, and substituing in the damped harmonic oscillator equation (Case 1), i get to:

http://www.texify.com/img/%5CLARGE%5C%21m%5Cddot%7Bf%7D%2Bk%28f%28t%29%2BL%2Bl_0%29%2BG%5Cdot%7Bf%7D%3D0.gif

Please, tell me if i am right in the whole problem. Thanks
 
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I've not done this for a while.. but.. resolve the forces around the mass M
I get something like (cant get latex thing workings so decript!)
m(x''2) - G(x'2) + k(x1 - x2) = 0

then you know x1 is a function of time f(t)
so this can be substituted in for x1 i believe
then rearrange so f(t) is subject.
I may be slightly wrong.. but I had a go :)
 
  • #3
P.S. force from spring = k( x1- x2)
which is the bit that may have confused you
 

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