How Can You Model a Man Sliding on Rough Ice with Intermittent Pushing?

In summary, the conversation discusses how to model a situation where a man of mass m slides on rough ice with a coefficient of kinetic friction ##\mu_k## and pushes outwards at intervals to try to come to a stop in a shorter time. The speaker is finding difficulty in modelling this and is only able to model the situation where the man slides freely. They also discuss the equation for the force of friction and how moving the feet from side to side can reduce the frictional force available in the fore and aft direction, which is important in performing "doughnuts" in a parking lot.
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walking
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How would you model the following situation?

A man of mass m slides on rough ice with coefficient of kinetic friction ##\mu_k##, while pushing outwards at intervals to try to come to a stop in a shorter time.

For example, he might slide for 5 seconds then push out with his right foot, then slide for 3 seconds then push out with his left foot, etc.

I am finding difficulty modelling this. I am only able to model the situation where the man slides freely.
 
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walking said:
...while pushing outwards at intervals to try to come to a stop in a shorter time...
What does "pushing outwards" mean? And why should it slow him down?

walking said:
I am only able to model the situation where the man slides freely.
Show your work.
 
  • #3
What is the equation for the force of friction?

How would you sum the forces?
 
  • #4
In a model where friction has constant magnitude, moving the feet from side to side will reduce the frictional force available in the fore and aft direction.

This is part of the secret to "doing doughnuts" in a parking lot.
 

Related to How Can You Model a Man Sliding on Rough Ice with Intermittent Pushing?

1. How do you create a model for a man sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing?

To create a model for a man sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing, we first need to understand the physical principles at play. This includes factors such as friction, momentum, and force. We can then use mathematical equations and computer simulations to create a realistic model.

2. What are the main challenges in modeling a man sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing?

The main challenges in modeling a man sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing include accurately representing the roughness of the ice surface, accounting for the intermittent pushing force, and accurately simulating the movement and interactions of the man's body with the ice.

3. How can you validate the accuracy of the model?

The accuracy of the model can be validated by comparing its predictions to real-world observations or data. This can be done through experiments or by collecting data from actual sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing and comparing it to the model's predictions.

4. Are there any assumptions made in the model?

Yes, there are likely some assumptions made in the model. For example, the model may assume that the man is a certain weight and shape, or that the ice surface is a certain level of roughness. These assumptions may affect the accuracy of the model's predictions.

5. How can this model be useful in real-world applications?

This model can be useful in understanding the dynamics of sliding on rough ice with intermittent pushing, which can have practical applications in sports such as ice skating or hockey. It can also be used to design better equipment or training strategies for these activities.

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