How can I prevent deformation of an ultrathin-walled tube during insertion?

In summary, the conversation discusses designing a mechanical system with two concentric tubes passing through a high density membrane. The outer tube has a tapered end and ultra thin walls, while the inner tube is more rigid and fills all available space to prevent deformation of the outer tube during insertion. There is still concern about potential deformation during the insertion process and the main condition is to prevent this from happening. The speaker also asks about what material parameters to discuss with the manufacturer and suggests experimenting with different tube sizes and types.
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edwardone123
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Designing mechanical system where two concentric tubes will pass through high density membrane.
Outer tube will have tapered end .Outer tube will have ultra thin walls (about 0.3-0.5 mm) .Inner tube is more rigid and will fill all space inside outer tube,decreasing chance for deformation of outer tube .Still afraid about possible deformation of outer tube during process of insertion.I know that an average insertion force is about 50 Newtons
My main condition : prevent deformation/tearing of out er tube during insertion process
Questions
What parameters of material (rigidity ,something else ? ) I need to discuss with manufacturer of this part?
Thank you
 
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Welcome to PF.
Before we can comment sensibly on specifications we will need a diagram that shows the relative positions of the membrane and the two tubes. Wall thickness is relative, what are the tube lengths and diameters?
 
  • #3
What size/length tubes are we talking about? How about visiting a model plane shop and buying some brass or aluminium tube to experiment with? Hypodermic needles are pretty strong and come in a range of sizes. 50N doesn't sound like much.
 

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