Help Understanding Limit Property Proof on Spivak's Calculus

In summary, the proof shows that if certain conditions are met, then the inequality |xy - x_0y_0| < ε is satisfied. The proof uses various steps, including using the fact that |x| < 1 + |x_0| and extending an inequality, to arrive at the final result.
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Hi, I've been studying from Spivak's Calculus. Normally when I have trouble I can just search, but this time I can't find anything (you can tell how extensive this forum is in that I've been registered here for a while and this is my first post). On page 89, the book gives proof of the following:

If
[tex] |x - x_0| < \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/tex] and [tex] |y - y_0| < \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)}[/tex]

Then

[tex] |xy - x_0y_0| < \epsilon [/tex]

The proof shows this:

1. Since [tex] |x-x_0| < 1 [/tex] we have [tex] |x| - |x_0| \leq |x-x_0| < 1 [/tex] so that [tex] |x| < 1 + |x_0| [/tex]

Thus,

2. [tex] |xy - x_0y_0| = |x(y-y_0) + y_0(x-x_0)| [/tex]
3. [tex]\leq |x| \cdot |y - y_0| + |y_0| \cdot (|x - x_0|) [/tex]
4. [tex]\leq (1 + |x_0|) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)} + |y_0| \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)} = \frac{\epsilon}{2} + \frac{\epsilon}{2} [/tex]

Where I have a problem is in how he just assumes that [tex] \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/tex] is 1, when I saw the minimum I would have thought you'd do a proof by cases.

Then later, I have a hard time understanding how he went from line 3 to line 4. If [tex] |x| < 1 + |x_0| [/tex] and [tex] |y - y_0| < \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)}[/tex], then only half of line four makes sense. Otherwise, I'm lost. Will anybody help me out?
 
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He doesn't assume that [itex] \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/itex] is 1. If epsilon is small enough, then clearly the minimum will not be 1. In any case, you'll save yourself a lot of confusion if you think of |x - a| < min(y,z) as simply stating that both |x-a| < y AND |x-a| < z are satisfied. In fact, look back at exercises 22-24 (or somewhere around there) of chapter 1; he states this reasoning explicitly. I'm not sure what's confusing about going from line 3 to 4... If you are wondering why there is an equals sign in line 4, I'm pretty sure that is a minor oversight. It should be a less than sign since |y_0| < |y_0| + 1.
 
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Oh wow, it does save a lot of confusion with the min, I was thinking about it wrong.
 
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alyks said:
Hi, I've been studying from Spivak's Calculus. Normally when I have trouble I can just search, but this time I can't find anything (you can tell how extensive this forum is in that I've been registered here for a while and this is my first post). On page 89, the book gives proof of the following:

If
[tex] |x - x_0| < \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/tex] and [tex] |y - y_0| < \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)}[/tex]

Then

[tex] |xy - x_0y_0| < \epsilon [/tex]

The proof shows this:

1. Since [tex] |x-x_0| < 1 [/tex] we have [tex] |x| - |x_0| \leq |x-x_0| < 1 [/tex] so that [tex] |x| < 1 + |x_0| [/tex]

Thus,

2. [tex] |xy - x_0y_0| = |x(y-y_0) + y_0(x-x_0)| [/tex]
3. [tex]\leq |x| \cdot |y - y_0| + |y_0| \cdot (|x - x_0|) [/tex]
4. [tex]\leq (1 + |x_0|) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)} + |y_0| \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)} = \frac{\epsilon}{2} + \frac{\epsilon}{2} [/tex]

Where I have a problem is in how he just assumes that [tex] \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/tex] is 1, when I saw the minimum I would have thought you'd do a proof by cases.

Then later, I have a hard time understanding how he went from line 3 to line 4. If [tex] |x| < 1 + |x_0| [/tex] and [tex] |y - y_0| < \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)}[/tex], then only half of line four makes sense. Otherwise, I'm lost. Will anybody help me out?

1st of all No 4 is wrong,because :

[tex] (1 + |x_0|) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)} + |y_0| \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)} [/tex]

IT is not equal to ε/2 + ε/2,

but :

[tex] (1 + |x_0|) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)} + (|y_0|+1) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)} [/tex] it is equal to ε/2 +ε/2

So you have to extend No 3 inequality and :

3. [tex]\leq |x| \cdot |y - y_0| + |y_0| \cdot (|x - x_0|) [/tex] [tex]\leq |x| \cdot |y - y_0| + (|y_0|+1) \cdot (|x - x_0|) [/tex].

Then :

[tex] |x - x_0| < \text{min} \left (1, \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}\right) [/tex] and [tex] |y - y_0| < \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)}[/tex]

Implies that:

1) [tex] |x-x_{o}|\leq 1[/tex] which implies that: [tex]|x|\leq |x_{o}| +1[/tex]

AND

2) [tex] |x-x_{o}|\leq\frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_{o}|+1)}[/tex]
AND

3) [tex] |y-y_{o}|<\frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_{o}|+1)}[/tex]

AND using (1) (2) and (3) we have :


[tex] |xy-x_{o}y_{o}|\leq |x| \cdot |y - y_0| + (|y_0|+1) \cdot (|x - x_0|)<(1 + |x_0|) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|x_0| + 1)} + (|y_0|+1) \cdot \frac{\epsilon}{2(|y_0| + 1)}= \frac{\epsilon}{2}+\frac{\epsilon}{2} = \epsilon [/tex]
 

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