Harmonic oscillator in a heat bath

In summary: In this case, I think that one could try to find a measure that is proportional to dp, but is not weighted by any particular density function. Then the Boltzmann probability measure would be given by formulaP_T(\{\sigma\}) = \frac{\exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma)}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}{\underset{\sigma'\in\Omega}{\sum} \exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma')}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}.
  • #1
jostpuur
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How to describe a harmonic oscillator defined by

[tex]
H(q,p) = \frac{p^2}{2m} + \frac{1}{2}kq^2
[/tex]

in a heat bath with some fixed temperature [itex]T[/itex]?

I suppose this question alone is not quite well defined, because it mixes classical and statistical mechanics in confusing manner, but I thought that one could make the question more rigor by assuming, that the oscillator frequency is notably larger than the frequency of instants when the oscillator interacts with the heat bath. In this case we could identify the ellipse trajectories [itex]q^2 + \frac{1}{mk}p^2 = r^2[/itex] with the indexes of the energy states used in statistical treatment. Right? The trajectories, on the other hand, can be identified with the radius [itex]r\in [0,\infty[[/itex]. The energy corresponding to each radius is [itex]E(r) = \frac{1}{2}kr^2[/itex].

The problem is that if we set the Boltzmann probability measure to be proportional to

[tex]
\exp\Big(-\frac{kr^2}{2k_{\textrm{B}} T}\Big) dr,
[/tex]

it would not give the correct energy distribution. This is, because this formula doesn't correctly take into account the density of the ellipse trajectories. The correct probability measure should be something like this:

[tex]
\exp\Big(-\frac{kr^2}{2k_{\textrm{B}} T}\Big) \rho(r) dr,
[/tex]

but I've been unable to figure out what [itex]\rho(r)[/itex] should be.

I thought that this could be a good postulate to start with: When the oscillator interacts with the heat bath, the position [itex]q[/itex] remains unchanged, but the momentum [itex]p[/itex] becomes thrown to some arbitrary new value, so that the probability of the new momentum would not be weighted by any particular density function. This would be a model of a collision with some particle from the heat bath. So if we assume that the new momentum has a probability measure proportional to [itex]dp[/itex] (this is not normalizable really, but it shouldn't be a problem, because normalizable factors arise later), it should be possible to solve what measure [itex]\rho(r)dr[/itex] follows for the trajectories.

Unfortunately I found this task too difficult. Anyone having any comments to this? Did I start into wrong direction with this problem, or can the [itex]\rho(r)[/itex] be solved from what I started?
 
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  • #2
Maybe you could start by calculating the canonical partition function
[tex]
Z(T)= \frac{1}{{(2\pi\hbar)}^3} \int d^3 p d^3 r e^{(-H/T)}\;.
[/tex]
 
  • #3
I suppose that would be

[tex]
Z(T) = \int\limits_{\mathbb{R}^2} dp\; dq\; \exp\Big(-\frac{H(q,p)}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\Big)
[/tex]

with the notation I was using?

That doesn't look right. It assumes that the points in the phase space would be the indexes of the energy states, and ignores the assumption I made in the beginning, that the indexes of the energy states should be the ellipse trajectories.

Once the [itex]\rho(r)[/itex], I talked about in the first post, becomes known, then the partition function would be given by formula

[tex]
Z(T) = \int\limits_0^{\infty} dr\; \rho(r) \exp\Big(-\frac{kr^2}{2k_{\textrm{B}} T}\Big)
[/tex]
 
  • #4
Having written down those two equations, it seems immediately clear, that there exists such [itex]\rho(r)[/itex] that the [itex]Z(T)[/itex] is identical from the both formulas, but I'm not convinced that such [itex]\rho(r)[/itex] would be consistent with the earlier assumption

jostpuur said:
I thought that this could be a good postulate to start with: When the oscillator interacts with the heat bath, the position [itex]q[/itex] remains unchanged, but the momentum [itex]p[/itex] becomes thrown to some arbitrary new value, so that the probability of the new momentum would not be weighted by any particular density function.
 
  • #5
Problem of underlying measure space

I've understood that if [itex]\Omega[/itex] is some finite index set of the energy states, then the Boltzmann probability measure is given by formula

[tex]
P_T(\{\sigma\}) = \frac{\exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma)}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}
{\underset{\sigma'\in\Omega}{\sum} \exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma')}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}.
[/tex]

If, instead of a finite index set, we have some arbitrary measure space [itex](\Omega,\mu)[/itex] as the index set, then the formula becomes naturally generalized as

[tex]
P_T(X)= \frac{\underset{X}{\int} d\mu(\sigma) \exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma)}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}
{\underset{\Omega}{\int} d\mu(\sigma') \exp\big(-\frac{H(\sigma')}{k_{\textrm{B}} T}\big)}.
[/tex]

The problem is that usually physical arguments will only tell what [itex]\Omega[/itex] is, and [itex]\mu[/itex] is left as a mystery. I'm curious to know if there exists some established theory on how [itex]\mu[/itex] should be solved in general.

I've noticed that some times [itex]\mu[/itex] can be solved by taking the most natural measure and not worrying about it more. For example with a gas molecule the index set is [itex]\mathbb{R}^3[/itex], and indexes are the possible velocities [itex]v[/itex] of the molecule. It turns out that the correct Maxwell-Boltzmann velocity distribution follows if one chooses to use the standard Lebesgue measure [itex]m_3[/itex] (or [itex]d^3x[/itex]).

Is there enlightening explanations out there, about why precisely the standard measure [itex]m_3[/itex] works so well?

The example I gave in the first post is an example of a more difficult situation, where the measure is not so obviously guessable.
 

Related to Harmonic oscillator in a heat bath

1. What is a harmonic oscillator in a heat bath?

A harmonic oscillator in a heat bath refers to a physical system that follows the laws of harmonic motion while also being in contact with a larger thermal environment. This thermal environment, or heat bath, provides the necessary energy for the oscillator to continue its oscillations.

2. How does a harmonic oscillator behave in a heat bath?

In a heat bath, a harmonic oscillator will experience random fluctuations due to collisions with the surrounding particles. These fluctuations cause the oscillator to deviate from its ideal harmonic motion and become more disordered over time.

3. What is the importance of studying harmonic oscillators in heat baths?

Studying harmonic oscillators in heat baths is crucial for understanding the behavior of many physical systems, such as molecules in a liquid or gas, electrical circuits, and even the motion of atoms in a solid. It also has practical applications in fields such as thermodynamics, statistical mechanics, and engineering.

4. How does temperature affect a harmonic oscillator in a heat bath?

The temperature of the heat bath directly affects the behavior of the harmonic oscillator. Higher temperatures result in more collisions and therefore more fluctuations, leading to a more disordered motion of the oscillator. Lower temperatures, on the other hand, result in fewer collisions and less disorder in the oscillator's motion.

5. What is the role of damping in a harmonic oscillator in a heat bath?

Damping, or the gradual loss of energy, plays a crucial role in a harmonic oscillator in a heat bath. The collisions with the surrounding particles cause the oscillator to lose energy, leading to a decrease in amplitude and a gradual approach towards equilibrium. Damping is essential for the oscillator to reach a steady-state in the heat bath and maintain a constant average energy.

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