Guessing trial wave function with variational method

In summary, one needs to solve a number of problems in order to create a trial wave function. The trial wave function must have the correct form, and the approximation cannot be better than what the ansatz allows.
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i want to ask about guessing the trial wave function at variational method of approximation

usually for example at solving harmonic oscillator or hydrogen atom we have conditions for trial wave function
but in fact i want to ask generally how could i make the guessing .. some problems give a particle of mass m moving at certain potential and want to use variational method to find gs energy now how could i guess the trial wavefunction
 
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physicist 12345 said:
how could i guess the trial wavefunction
By having solved a number of problems, or seen how others make the choice.
 
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A. Neumaier said:
By having solved a number of problems, or seen how others make the choice.
then it some thing come with experience ?
 
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physicist 12345 said:
then it some thing come with experience ?
With experience, or with trial and error. Generally one first thinks about the properties the function wanted should have (asymptotic behavior or behavior near distinguished points). Then one selects a class of functions having this property. Often there are paradigmatic exactly solvable cases that show what kind of solution is reasonable, and one can choose similar functions. Normalized wave functions typically decay exponentially. Generic variability is created by polynomial contributions. This suggests an ansatz ##e^{-a|x-x_k|} p(x)## with a polynomial ##p(x)##, or (suggested by the linearity of the Schroedinger equation) linear combinations of these. If one wants to have an easy time in calculating inner products, one uses instead Gaussians times polynomials, etc..Unnormalized ones have an asymptotic form reflecting knowledge about scattering, and again one can make up trial functions with this behavior.
 
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Variational methods are often not very sensitive to the choice of trial functions, so long as they're not way off.
 
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marcusl said:
Variational methods are often not very sensitive to the choice of trial functions, so long as they're not way off.
They must have qualitatively the correct form, and the approximation cannot be better than what the ansatz allows.
 

Related to Guessing trial wave function with variational method

1. What is a guessing trial wave function?

A guessing trial wave function is a proposed mathematical function that represents the possible state of a quantum system. It is used in the variational method to approximate the true wave function of the system and calculate its energy.

2. How is the trial wave function improved in the variational method?

In the variational method, the trial wave function is improved by varying its parameters and evaluating the corresponding energy until the minimum is reached. This process is repeated multiple times to find the most accurate approximation of the true wave function.

3. What is the purpose of the variational method in quantum mechanics?

The variational method is used in quantum mechanics to estimate the ground state energy and wave function of a system, which cannot be solved exactly using analytical methods. It provides a numerical approach to solving the Schrödinger equation and obtaining important information about the system.

4. Can the variational method be applied to any quantum system?

Yes, the variational method can be applied to any quantum system, as long as a suitable trial wave function can be formulated. However, it is most commonly used for systems with a small number of particles due to the computational complexity of solving for larger systems.

5. What are the advantages of using the variational method over other numerical methods?

The variational method is advantageous because it provides a simple and intuitive approach to finding the ground state energy and wave function of a quantum system. It also allows for the incorporation of physical intuition and knowledge into the trial wave function, making it more accurate than other numerical methods.

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