Gravitational Force Units Question

In summary, the conversation is about a question regarding the formula for gravitation that was discussed in a previous thread. The formula is v=dr/dt, a=dv/dt, and when multiplied by dv/dt by dr/dr, it equals v dv/dr = -G (m1 + m2) / r2. The question is why it is possible to set a = v dv/dr = -G (m1 + m2) / r2, as the units on the left side are acceleration (m/s^2) and on the right side is the gravitational force (kg*m/s^2). The answer is that the units on the right side should be Gm1m2/r2, not G
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philipp2020
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I just have a question concerning a previous thread about gravitation.

The formula is from post 19 at https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=635188&page=2


v= dr/dt

a = dv/dt

multiply by dv/dt by dr/dr:

a = (dr dv)/(dt dr) = v dv/dr

This gets you to the first step:

v dv/dr = -G (m1 + m2) / r2


My question is: Why is it possible to set a = v dv/dr = -G (m1 + m2) / r2 ?

On the left side there are units of acceleration (m/s^2) and on the right side is the gravitational force (kg*m/s^2). Shouldn't the units at all time be the same on both sides?

Thanks very much for an answer.

Regards, Philipp
 
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hey philipp, please use [itex]\LaTeX[/itex]. it ain't hard.
 
  • #3
philipp2020 said:
...= -G (m1 + m2) / r2
on the right side is the gravitational force (kg*m/s^2)
Are you sure? Look up the units of G and check that again.
 
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Thanks for the reply.

Well usually -G (m1 + m2) / r2 = F = m * a

This is not equal to just acceleration as in a = (dr dv)/(dt dr) = v dv/dr = -G (m1 + m2)
 
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philipp2020 said:
Thanks for the reply.

Well usually -G (m1 + m2) / r2 = F = m * a
No. Gravitational force requires two masses multiplied, not added: Gm1m2/r2

The left side of your equation has units of acceleration, not force.
 
  • #6
aaa, thanks. so silly from me :)
 

Related to Gravitational Force Units Question

1. What are gravitational force units?

Gravitational force units are units of measurement used to quantify the force of gravity between two objects. This force is also known as the gravitational pull and is dependent on the masses of the objects and the distance between them.

2. What is the unit of measurement for gravitational force?

The unit of measurement for gravitational force is Newtons (N). This unit was named after Sir Isaac Newton, who first described the laws of gravity.

3. How is gravitational force measured?

Gravitational force can be measured using a device called a spring scale, which measures the force required to stretch a spring. The force of gravity can also be calculated using the equation F = G(m1m2)/r^2, where G is the gravitational constant, m1 and m2 are the masses of the two objects, and r is the distance between them.

4. What is the difference between weight and gravitational force?

Weight is the measure of the force of gravity on an object, while gravitational force is the actual force of attraction between two objects. Weight can vary depending on the strength of gravity, while gravitational force remains constant.

5. How does distance affect gravitational force?

The strength of gravitational force decreases as the distance between two objects increases. This is due to the inverse square law, which states that the force of gravity is inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the objects. In simpler terms, the farther apart two objects are, the weaker the gravitational force between them.

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