Gauge invariance is not normal invariance?

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of local gauge invariance and the need to factor out volume factors through the Faddeev-Popov procedure. The purpose of this procedure is to cancel out infinities and account for redundant freedoms present in the theory. The difference between gauge invariance in the simpler example of ##\phi^4## theory and that of Yang-Mills theory is explained using an integral analogy. The concept of redundant freedom is also discussed, with the example of gauge invariance in electrodynamics. The use of gauge redundant variables in writing a theory in manifestly Lorentz covariant form is also mentioned.
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taishizhiqiu
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I recently learned that with (local) gauge invariance, functional quantization needs to factor out volume factor(Faddeev-Popov procedure).

Why does this has to be done?Just to remove infinity? As far as I am concerned, ##\phi^4## theory contains invariance(for example ##\phi\to\phi\cdot e^{i \alpha}##) but do not need such procedure.

What is the difference between the invariance in ##\phi^4## theory and that of Yang-mills theory? I learned that gauge invariance is redundant freedom but what's the exact meaning of redundant freedom?
 
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It's indeed to cancel an infinity. The most simple analogue I can come up with is an integral like

\begin{equation}
\label{1}
I=\int_{\mathbb{R}^2} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{x} \exp[-(x_1-x_2)^2].
\end{equation}

Obviously that's divergent, because you can just do the ##x_2## integration and get an expression that is independent of ##x_1##. Thus the ##x_1## integral is divergent.

Now, as in the case of gauge invariance, there's first of all a symmetry here: The integrand is obviously independent under translations, i.e., under ##x_1 \rightarrow x_1+a##, ##x_2 \rightarrow x_2+a##, which is the reason for the divergence from the point of view of symmetries. Second it might be that the situation you describe does not care about the individual values of ##x_1## and ##x_2## but only their difference, and what you really want to do is to integrate over this difference. Of course, here it's simple to just do so, but for the gauge invariance it's not that simple, and you have to do this in an indirect way. Indeed, for a gauge theory, it's not the gauge-boson vector fields ##A^{\mu}## but only the whole equivalence class of these fields which are defined as being connected by a gauge transformation. So only these "gauge orbits" are the distinct physical states, and you want to count each gauge orbit only once in the path integral. So instead of the divergent quantity (\ref{1}) we want
\begin{equation}
\tilde{I}=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} x_1 \exp(-x_1^2), \label{2}
\end{equation}
which is well-defined. So here we choose the gauge fixing ##x_2=0## and integrated only over all distinct situation, given by the values of ##x_1 \in \mathbb{R}##.

So in our analogue situation, the Faddeev-Popov procedure is achieved as follows: First we choose a "gauge condition". Here, we have not much choices, because of the very simple symmetry. We can just fix ##x_2=0## as the gauge condition, and any configuration, equivalent to this one representative of the corresponding gauge orbit is given by the translation,
$$\vec{x}^{(a)}=\begin{pmatrix} x_1 \\ 0 \end{pmatrix}+\begin{pmatrix} a \\ a \end{pmatrix}.$$
The gauge fixing function is
##g(\vec{x})=x_2##.
Now we define
$$\Delta^{-1}(\vec{x})=\int_\mathbb{R} \mathrm{d} a \delta[g(x^a)]=\int_\mathbb{R} \mathrm{d} a \delta(x_2+a)=1.$$
Then we can write
$$I=\int_{\mathbb{R}^2} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{x} \Delta(\vec{x}) \int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} a \delta[g(\vec{x}^{(a)}] \exp[-(x_1-x_2)^2].$$
Now the integration measure ##\mathrm{d}^2 \vec{x}##, the original integrand (the exponential of the "action"), and ##\Delta(\vec{x})## are "gauge invariant". So by making the substitution ##x=y^{(-a)}##, we get
$$I=\int_{\mathbb{R}} \mathrm{d} a \int_{\mathbb{R}^2} \mathrm{d}^2 \vec{y} \Delta(\vec{y}) \delta[g(\vec{y})] \exp[-(y_1-y_2)^2].$$
Now it's easy to see that you get simply the desired value ##\tilde{I}## defined in (\ref{2}) multiplied by a diverging trivial factor, and that's precisely what's also achieved for the functional integrals used in QFT of gauge models, and that's the only thing you need for all practical purposes.
 
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taishizhiqiu said:
I learned that gauge invariance is redundant freedom but what's the exact meaning of redundant freedom?

Gauge invariance means that there is more than one way of describing a physical situation. A simple example is the electric potential in classical electrostatics - one can add any constant to the potential without changing the physical situation that is described. So the "addition of a constant" is analogous to gauge covariance, and only the potential difference is physical or invariant. In gauge theories, the physical quantity or gauge invariant quantity is (at least heuristically) the Wilson loop.
 
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Thanks vanhees71 and atyy for illuminating illustration.

However, what I still don't understand is what is the exact meaning of physical situation. Electrodynamics is easy, but when you look at an unfamiliar Lagrangian, how can you deduce whether it has redundant degree of freedom?
 
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In general, one has to be told whether Lagrangian or the variables being used are gauged or not.

For example, if in wave mechanics we have ψ(x), we have to be told whether x is gauged by 2π. If it is not gauged, then it is a particle on a line, if it is gauged, it is a particle on a circle.

In the standard model, gauge covariance is related to renormalizability. However, it is difficult to argue that renormalizability is a fundamental requirement, since gravity is not renormalizable. http://isites.harvard.edu/fs/docs/icb.topic473482.files/21-renormalizability.pdf

The most common argument as to why we use gauge redundant variables (A(x)) rather than gauge invariant variables (Wilson loops) is that the gauge redundant variables allow us to write a theory in manfestly Lorentz covariant form.
 
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Related to Gauge invariance is not normal invariance?

1. What is gauge invariance?

Gauge invariance is a principle in physics that states that the fundamental laws of nature should not be affected by changes in the choice of mathematical description used to represent them. In other words, the equations that govern physical phenomena should remain the same regardless of the specific units or scales used to measure them.

2. How is gauge invariance different from normal invariance?

Gauge invariance is a more specific form of invariance that applies to physical theories involving gauge fields, such as electromagnetism. Normal invariance, on the other hand, is a broader concept that applies to any physical theory and simply states that the laws of nature should remain unchanged under different mathematical representations.

3. Why is gauge invariance important in physics?

Gauge invariance is important because it allows for a more elegant and consistent description of physical phenomena. It helps to eliminate redundancies and ambiguities in the mathematical framework of a theory, leading to a more accurate and comprehensive understanding of the underlying physical principles.

4. What are some examples of theories that exhibit gauge invariance?

The most well-known example is Maxwell's theory of electromagnetism, which includes the concept of gauge invariance through the use of vector potential and scalar potential. Other examples include Yang-Mills theory, which describes the strong nuclear force, and the Standard Model of particle physics.

5. Are there any exceptions to gauge invariance?

While gauge invariance is a fundamental principle in many physical theories, there are some cases where it does not hold. For example, in the presence of certain types of boundary conditions or in systems with topological defects, gauge symmetry may be broken. Additionally, some proposed theories, such as string theory, do not rely on gauge invariance as a fundamental principle.

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