Functional time-dependent perturbation theory

In summary, the conversation discussed the formula for time-dependent perturbation theory in NRQM and its application to Klein-Gordon and Dirac equations. The conversation then touched on the use of functional Schrodinger equation and the Dyson series in the interaction picture, with a reference to the lecture notes and book of B. Hatfield. The conversation concluded with discussing the use of wave functions in relativistic QT and the preferred use of operator or path-integral formalism in QFT.
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Today, in my advanced particle physics class, the professor reminded the time-dependent perturbation theory in NRQM and derived the formula:

##\displaystyle \frac{da_m(t)}{dt}=-i \sum_n e^{-i(E_n-E_m)} \int_{\mathbb R^3}d^3 x \phi^*_m (\vec x) V(\vec x,t) \phi_n(\vec x)##.

Then he said that this is true also for Klein-Gordon and Dirac equations which confused me. I asked him how can that be true because we assumed an equation of the form ## (H_0+V)\psi = i \frac{\partial \psi}{\partial t} ## and started from eigenfunctions of ## H_0 ## to do the perturbation but Dirac and Klein-Gordon equations are not of this form. His answer wasn't convincing too. So I investigated a little bit and then suddenly remembered the functional Schrodinger equation. Now I think that using the functional Schrodinger equation, we can derive a similar formula:

##\displaystyle \frac{da_m(t)}{dt}=-i \sum_n a_n(t) \int D \phi \ \psi^*_m [\phi] V[\phi] \psi_n[\phi] e^{-i(E_n-E_m)}##

and interpret the ## a_n ##s as transition amplitudes between different field configurations. Is this true?
Thanks
 
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That looks like the usual Dyson series in the interaction picture, it still holds in QFT. Although you wouldn't be doing it in position space I assume.
 
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HomogenousCow said:
That looks like the usual Dyson series in the interaction picture, it still holds in QFT. Although you wouldn't be doing it in position space I assume.
All that I can find in books are space-time or momentum integrals. Can you give a reference that contains such a functional integral on field configurations for the Dyson series?
 
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You find both, the operator and the path-integral formalism in my lecture notes on QFT:

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/lect.pdf

and in any modern textbook on the subject. Don't read old textbooks like Bjorken/Drell vol. I. It's a very nice historical introduction to how difficult life was before the machinery of QFT was discovered, but that's it.

The functional formalism is not so often discussed in textbooks. An excellent exception is

B. Hatfield, Quantum field theory of point particles and strings, Perseus Books (1992)
 
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vanhees71 said:
You find both, the operator and the path-integral formalism in my lecture notes on QFT:

http://fias.uni-frankfurt.de/~hees/publ/lect.pdf

and in any modern textbook on the subject. Don't read old textbooks like Bjorken/Drell vol. I. It's a very nice historical introduction to how difficult life was before the machinery of QFT was discovered, but that's it.

The functional formalism is not so often discussed in textbooks. An excellent exception is

B. Hatfield, Quantum field theory of point particles and strings, Perseus Books (1992)

So the functional formalism is old and hard and the modern ways to do things are operator and path integral formalism and the formula that I wrote is correct in...which formalism? Path integral or functional? I'm confused because the D in the integral reminds me of path integrals.

Also I've read Hatfield but there was nothing like the formula I wrote in my first post. Is there such a formula in your lectures?

Also I didn't read Bjorken and Drell. Our main text is Halzen and Martin. Its just a advanced particle physics class, not full QFT.
 
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I don't like wave functions in relativistic QT. The formula is, of course, somewhere in operator form in my lectures (it's the usual Dyson-Wick series, truncated at the first order). I'm not used to the functional formalism. I don't know, whether it's in much use by specialist theorists in QFT. In our field of research (relativistic heavy-ion collisions) we use either the operator or the path-integral formalism and, at the end, the Feynman rules of perturbation theory derived from there. I like Hatfields book, because he carefully explains, how to calculate things in all the three formalisms. I guess, you should find a derivation of the (perturbative) S-matrix elements in all three formalisms in his book.
 

Related to Functional time-dependent perturbation theory

1. What is functional time-dependent perturbation theory?

Functional time-dependent perturbation theory is a mathematical method used to study the behavior of a quantum system as it is perturbed by an external field or interaction. It allows for the calculation of changes in the system's properties over time.

2. How does functional time-dependent perturbation theory differ from other perturbation theories?

Functional time-dependent perturbation theory differs from other perturbation theories in that it is based on functional derivatives rather than traditional derivatives. This allows for a more accurate and comprehensive analysis of the system's response to the external perturbations.

3. What are the main applications of functional time-dependent perturbation theory?

Functional time-dependent perturbation theory is commonly used in quantum mechanics to study the dynamics of atoms and molecules, as well as in condensed matter physics to understand the behavior of solid materials under external influences.

4. What are the limitations of functional time-dependent perturbation theory?

One limitation of functional time-dependent perturbation theory is that it assumes the perturbation to be small and the system to be in a stable state. Additionally, it may not accurately capture the effects of highly complex or non-linear perturbations.

5. What are the benefits of using functional time-dependent perturbation theory?

Functional time-dependent perturbation theory allows for the calculation of time-dependent properties of a system, which is not possible with other perturbation theories. It also provides a more accurate and comprehensive understanding of the system's response to external perturbations.

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