Frame of reference and relativity.

In summary, the answer to the question is yes, as the rocket would see star B explode first according to an observer who shares the same reference frame as the stars. However, the answer is no in an observer's frame of reference which is moving with respect to the stars.
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Homework Statement



You are flying your personal rocketcraft at 0.9c from Star A toward Star B. The distance between the stars, in the stars' reference frame, is 1.0 ly. Both stars happen to explode simultaneously in your reference frame at the instant you are exactly halfway between them.

The question asked of the aforementioned scenario is "Do you see the flashes simultaneously?"

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The Attempt at a Solution



I answered the question with a no, my reasons were, if the rocket is at midway in his frame of reference when both stars explode, (the light from star B would reach the rocket first as it is traveling towards star B, i.e at .9c the distance of 1ly would be reduced to .44ly the midway of which would be .22ly) however it turns out the answer is yes. My relativity lecturer had a same view (on a similar question, he stated that the flashes would be observed at same time).

Could someone explain explain why my answer was wrong?
 
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bayan said:

Homework Statement



You are flying your personal rocketcraft at 0.9c from Star A toward Star B. The distance between the stars, in the stars' reference frame, is 1.0 ly. Both stars happen to explode simultaneously in your reference frame at the instant you are exactly halfway between them.

The question asked of the aforementioned scenario is "Do you see the flashes simultaneously?"

Homework Equations



Conceptual question, no equations needed.

The Attempt at a Solution



I answered the question with a no, my reasons were, if the rocket is at midway in his frame of reference when both stars explode, (the light from star B would reach the rocket first as it is traveling towards star B,
That would be true if the stars exploded simultaneously in the stars' frame of reference.

If somebody not moving relative to the stars (i.e that observer shares the same reference frame as the stars) observes the stars explode simultaneously, then you (who is moving with respect to the stars at 0.9 c) would see (and observe) star B explode first. But that's not what the problem statement describes. The problem statement says that the stars explode simultaneously in your frame of reference (not the stars' frame of reference).
however it turns out the answer is yes. My relativity lecturer had a same view (on a similar question, he stated that the flashes would be observed at same time).

Could someone explain explain why my answer was wrong?
There is no such thing as absolute simultaneity in relativity. Events which are simultaneous in one frame of reference are not necessarily simultaneous in another frame. Not only does the time difference of events change depending on one's frame of reference, but also the spatial difference. This is true even for different inertial frames of reference, (different inertial frames in special relativity have different relative velocities, even though they are constant velocities).

In your inertial frame of reference, you are the one standing still. According to your frame of reference, the stars are the things that are moving at 0.9 C (star B is moving toward you and star A away from you). Now try the same thought process. :wink:
 
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Thanks for your reply, I understand it now :)
 

Related to Frame of reference and relativity.

1. What is a frame of reference?

A frame of reference is a coordinate system used to describe the position, motion, and orientation of objects in a given space. It is an essential concept in physics and is used to understand the relative position and movement of objects.

2. How does a frame of reference affect measurements?

The choice of frame of reference can affect the measurements of an object's position, velocity, and acceleration. For example, an object's speed may appear different depending on whether it is observed from a stationary or moving frame of reference.

3. What is the difference between inertial and non-inertial frames of reference?

An inertial frame of reference is one in which Newton's laws of motion hold true, and there is no acceleration or force acting on objects within this frame. A non-inertial frame of reference is one in which there is a net acceleration or non-zero force acting on objects within the frame.

4. How does the theory of relativity relate to frames of reference?

The theory of relativity states that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. This means that measurements made in one frame of reference should be consistent with measurements made in another frame, regardless of the frame's relative motion.

5. Can multiple frames of reference be used to describe the same event?

Yes, multiple frames of reference can be used to describe the same event. This is because each frame of reference provides a unique perspective on the event, and all perspectives are equally valid. However, the measurements made in each frame may differ due to the relative motion between frames.

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