Force Equilibrium in GR: Conceptualizing Intuition

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of force equilibrium in the context of GR and QED, where gravity and electromagnetism are considered as different aspects of a single force. The concept is explored through the example of the maximally-charged matter spacetime, where the gravitational acceleration and electromagnetic force cancel each other out, demonstrating the internal consistency of the Einstein-Maxwell equations.
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When considering the Newtonian forces, it's somewhat intuitive to think about the equilibration of forces, e.g. two charged particles overcoming the gravitational attraction to repel each other. Nothing new. What puzzles me though is to consider the same case within the context of GR and QED. Now gravity isn't a "force" and neither is the photon field. The gravitational acceleration is simply a trajectory through curved spacetime, and the electromagnetic force arises from the exchange of photons. So now how am I to imagine this "force" equilibrium? Does the electromagnetic energy counteract the gravitational mass energy of our two particle system in such a way that space is flat? Or is the electromagnetic "force" resisting the curvature of space? I have a hard time conceptualizing the intuitive content of classical physics within the framework of more fundamental theories.
 
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I've never seen work where GR and QED are mixed, but this question of 'forces' balancing is addressed in the solution of the Einstein-Maxwell equations.

I did this for the unphysical but interesting maximally-charged matter spacetime where the charge of the matter exactly offsets the effect of the gravitational field. The SET is that of an electric field + static matter.

The gravitational acceleration vector of a static particle is given by

αUμUα

where ∇ is the covariant derivative and Uμ=(1/√(-g00),0,0,0) for the stationary particle.

The acceleration caused by the electric field is

(Q/ρ)FαβJβ

where Q is the charge density and ρ is the matter density. The Faraday tensor F has been calculated taking the gravitational field into account ( ie in curved spacetime).
It turns out that with Q=ρ the two acceleration vectors are both non-zero, but sum to zero.

This has a straightforward interpretation as force cancellation, and shows the internal consistency of the E-M equations.

Here's a ref for the maximally charged solutions

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/gr-qc/pdf/9805/9805002v1.pdf

and my force calculation is in this

http://www.blatword.co.uk/space-time/charged_dust_lut.pdf
 
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The gravitational acceleration is simply a trajectory through curved spacetime, and the electromagnetic force arises from the exchange of photons. So now how am I to imagine this "force" equilibrium?
It's not a force equilibrium, because as you said, there's only one force. Rather it's an example of F = ma, where F is the (unbalanced) electromagnetic force, and a is the gravitational acceleration that a particle undergoes even when it seems to us to be "sitting still".
 

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What is force equilibrium in GR?

Force equilibrium in GR refers to the balance of forces acting on an object in general relativity. In this theory, the effects of gravity are described as the curvature of spacetime, and the concept of force equilibrium helps us understand how objects move in this curved spacetime.

How is force equilibrium different in GR compared to classical mechanics?

In classical mechanics, force equilibrium is described by Newton's laws of motion, which state that an object will remain at rest or in uniform motion unless acted upon by an external force. In general relativity, the effects of gravity are taken into account and the concept of force equilibrium is more complex, as the curvature of spacetime also plays a role in the motion of objects.

What is the role of intuition in understanding force equilibrium in GR?

Intuition plays a crucial role in understanding force equilibrium in GR, as it helps us conceptualize the effects of gravity on objects in a curved spacetime. While classical mechanics can be intuitively understood through everyday experiences, general relativity requires a deeper understanding of abstract concepts and mathematical equations.

How can we visualize force equilibrium in GR?

Visualizing force equilibrium in GR can be challenging, as it involves understanding the curvature of spacetime and how it affects the motion of objects. One way to visualize this concept is through the use of diagrams and simulations that show the bending of spacetime around massive objects and the paths of objects as they move through this curved space.

Why is understanding force equilibrium in GR important?

Understanding force equilibrium in GR is important because it helps us explain the motion of objects in the universe, from the movement of planets and stars to the behavior of light. It also allows us to make accurate predictions about the behavior of objects in extreme conditions, such as near black holes, where the effects of gravity are significant.

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