For Just How Long Has the Periodicity of Halley's Comet Been Known?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility that Halley's Comet was recognized as periodic by 1st-century Jewish astronomers. This theory is supported by a passage in the Talmud which mentions a star that appears once every seventy years and leads sailors astray. This idea is also mentioned in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle and a quote from Eilmer of Malmesbury in 1066, who expresses hatred towards the comet and its potential to bring downfall to his country. The original Babylonian Aramaic text also mentions the same concept, with one star rising every seventy years and leading ships astray.
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I was just reading up about Halley's Comet in Wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley's_Comet[/PLAIN] ), and I came across the following two items:


"The possibility has been raised that 1st-century Jewish astronomers had already recognized Halley's Comet as periodic.[26] This theory notes a passage in the Talmud[27] which refers to "a star which appears once in seventy years that makes the captains of the ships err."[28]"

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"This appearance of the comet is also noted in the Anglo-Saxon Chronicle. Eilmer of Malmesbury may have seen Halley previously in 989, as he wrote of it in 1066: "You've come, have you? ... You've come, you source of tears to many mothers, you evil. I hate you! It is long since I saw you; but as I see you now you are much more terrible, for I see you brandishing the downfall of my country. I hate you!"[64]"
 
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BadBrain said:
"The possibility has been raised that 1st-century Jewish astronomers had already recognized Halley's Comet as periodic.[26] This theory notes a passage in the Talmud[27] which refers to "a star which appears once in seventy years that makes the captains of the ships err."[28]"

from http://halakhah.com/horayoth/horayoth_10.html#chapter_iii (nezikin, tractate horayoth, chapter 3 (הוריות פרק ג), gemara (גמרא), at folio 10b (י,ב)) …

The latter answered him, 'A certain star rises once in seventy years and leads the sailors astray, and I suspected it might rise and lead us astray.'​

the original babylonian aramaic of the words in bold (from http://www.mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l4803.htmor is this a hebrew translation? :confused:) is …

כוכב אחד לשבעים שנה עולה ומתעה את <הספינות> [הספנים

which google-translate renders (from hebrew) as
One star rises and seventy years misleading the <ships> [sailors]​
 
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tiny-tim said:
from http://halakhah.com/horayoth/horayoth_10.html#chapter_iii (nezikin, tractate horayoth, chapter 3 (הוריות פרק ג), gemara (גמרא), at folio 10b (י,ב)) …

The latter answered him, 'A certain star rises once in seventy years and leads the sailors astray, and I suspected it might rise and lead us astray.'​

the original babylonian aramaic of the words in bold (from http://www.mechon-mamre.org/b/l/l4803.htmor is this a hebrew translation? :confused:) is …

כוכב אחד לשבעים שנה עולה ומתעה את <הספינות> [הספנים

which google-translate renders (from hebrew) as
One star rises and seventy years misleading the <ships> [sailors]​

Thanks! :smile:
 

Related to For Just How Long Has the Periodicity of Halley's Comet Been Known?

1. When was the periodicity of Halley's Comet first discovered?

The periodicity of Halley's Comet was first discovered in 1705 by English astronomer Edmond Halley, after whom the comet is named.

2. How often does Halley's Comet appear?

Halley's Comet has an orbital period of approximately 76 years, meaning it appears in Earth's sky once every 76 years.

3. Has the periodicity of Halley's Comet always been known?

No, the periodicity of Halley's Comet was not known until Edmond Halley calculated it based on previous recorded sightings of the comet.

4. Is there any evidence of the periodicity of Halley's Comet in historical records?

Yes, there are historical records dating back to ancient civilizations such as the Chinese, Babylonians, and Greeks that mention sightings of Halley's Comet. However, they did not know it was the same comet appearing periodically.

5. How accurate is the predicted return of Halley's Comet?

The predicted return of Halley's Comet has been fairly accurate, with the last appearance in 1986 and the next predicted appearance in 2061. However, factors such as gravitational influences from other planets can slightly alter its orbit and make the return date slightly different.

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