Fnding the rms speed of hydrogen

In summary, to find the rms speed of hydrogen molecules in air at the same temperature as nitrogen molecules with an rms speed of 493 m/s, you need to take into account the difference in atomic mass between nitrogen and hydrogen. This results in the rms speed of hydrogen being 340.43 m/s, which is actually 7 times larger than the rms speed of nitrogen.
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Homework Statement



The rms speed of nitrogen molecules in air at some temperature is 493 m/s. What is the rms speed of hydrogen molecules in air at the same temperature?



Homework Equations



Vrms


The Attempt at a Solution

 
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Finding the rms speed of hydrogen

Homework Statement



The rms speed of nitrogen molecules in air at some temperature is 493 m/s. What is the rms speed of hydrogen molecules in air at some temperature?


Homework Equations



root-mean-square speedvrms= [itex]\sqrt{v2}[/itex]=[itex]\sqrt{\frac{3kT}{m}}[/itex]



The Attempt at a Solution



mnitrogen=[itex]\frac{28.0 g}{6.02 X 1023}[/itex]=4.65 X 10-26

mhydrogen=[itex]\frac{2.0 g}{6.02 X 1023}[/itex]= 3.32 X 10-27

493= [itex]\sqrt{\frac{(3)(1.38 X 10-23)(T)}{4.65 X 10-26}}[/itex]
T= 233 K

Vrms of hydrogen= [itex]\sqrt{\frac{(3)(1.38 X 10-23(T)}{3.32 X 10-27}}[/itex]=340.43 m/s

The answer is actually 1840 m/s.

What did I do wrong?
 
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Wow, all that work and it didn't come out right!
Better to just think for a bit. The atomic mass for the H2 is lighter by a factor of 14.
So the 3kT/m will be 14 times larger for the hydrogen. And its square root will be sqrt(14) times larger.
 
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To find the rms speed of hydrogen molecules in air at the same temperature, we can use the equation Vrms = √(3RT/M), where R is the gas constant, T is the temperature, and M is the molar mass of the gas. In this case, the molar mass of hydrogen is 2 g/mol, and the temperature is the same as that of nitrogen molecules, so we can use the same value for R. Plugging in these values, we get Vrms = √(3*8.314 J/mol*K * T/2 g/mol), which simplifies to Vrms = √(4.157 J/mol * T). Therefore, at the given temperature, the rms speed of hydrogen molecules in air would be approximately 348 m/s.
 

Related to Fnding the rms speed of hydrogen

1. How do you find the rms speed of hydrogen?

To find the rms speed of hydrogen, you can use the following formula: vrms = √(3RT/M), where R is the gas constant (8.314 J/mol∙K), T is the temperature in Kelvin, and M is the molar mass of hydrogen (2.016 g/mol).

2. Why is finding the rms speed of hydrogen important?

Finding the rms speed of hydrogen is important because it can help us understand the behavior and movement of hydrogen gas particles. It is also a crucial factor in various scientific calculations and experiments involving hydrogen gas.

3. What is the significance of the root-mean-square (rms) speed?

The root-mean-square (rms) speed is significant because it represents the average speed of gas particles in a sample. It takes into account both the magnitude and direction of the particles' velocities, making it a more accurate measure of their overall speed.

4. How does temperature affect the rms speed of hydrogen?

Temperature has a direct effect on the rms speed of hydrogen. As temperature increases, the kinetic energy of the gas particles also increases, causing them to move faster and thus increasing their rms speed.

5. Can the rms speed of hydrogen be used to determine the average kinetic energy of the particles?

Yes, the rms speed of hydrogen can be used to determine the average kinetic energy of the particles using the formula KEavg = (3/2)kT, where k is the Boltzmann constant (1.38 x 10^-23 J/K) and T is the temperature in Kelvin.

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