Finding the point on a parabola closest to the origin

In summary: It is better to just use the given constraints to simplify the objective function as much as possible. In summary, the book answer for the curve coordinates of the point nearest to P in the curve 2y2 = 5(x+1) with P(0,0) is (-1,0). To find this, the formula was used to minimize the square of the distance between the point and the curve.
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leprofece
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Find the curve coordinates of the point nearest to P in the curve
2y2 = 5(x+1) P(0,0)
Book answer (-1,0)

ok (x-0)2+ (y-0)2 = D
D = (x)2+ (y)2
and (y)2 = -x2

Now -x2 = 5/2(x+1)

But derivating I don't get the answer or ansa
 
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Re: max and min 317

isn't the formula like

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{(x -0)^2 + (y- 0)^2} = D\) ?

I think you forgot the square root . I'm not sure though but I think that cancels your squares in the end
 
  • #3
leprofece, Please use thread titles that describe the problem.

You can in fact minimize the square of the distance for simplification of the computation:

\(\displaystyle f(x,y)=x^2+y^2\)

constrained by:

\(\displaystyle x=\frac{2}{5}y^2-1\)

So, substituting for $x$ into the objective function, we find:

\(\displaystyle f(y)=\left(\frac{2}{5}y^2-1 \right)^2+y^2\)

Now, differentiate with respect to $y$ and equate the result to zero to find the critical value.
 
  • #4
MarkFL said:
leprofece, Please use thread titles that describe the problem.

You can in fact minimize the square of the distance for simplification of the computation:

\(\displaystyle f(x,y)=x^2+y^2\)

constrained by:

\(\displaystyle x=\frac{2}{5}y^2-1\)

So, substituting for $x$ into the objective function, we find:

\(\displaystyle f(y)=\left(\frac{2}{5}y^2-1 \right)^2+y^2\)

Now, differentiate with respect to $y$ and equate the result to zero to find the critical value.

One Thing
Can I solve for y and constrain with x instead of y how you did?
 
  • #5
leprofece said:
One Thing
Can I solve for y and constrain with x instead of y how you did?

Yes, but then you run into a "problem." Try it and see...:D

It is still workable, but becomes a boundary problem like the circle problem you recently posted.
 

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The point on a parabola closest to the origin is also known as the vertex of the parabola. To find this point, you can use the formula (-b/2a, c-b^2/4a), where a, b, and c are the coefficients of the quadratic equation in standard form.

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Finding the point on a parabola closest to the origin is important in many real-world applications, such as finding the minimum or maximum value of a function. It can also help in solving optimization problems and finding the shortest distance between a point and a parabola.

3. Is there a graphical method for finding the point on a parabola closest to the origin?

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