Finding spring constant from a graph

In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of finding the spring constant for an oscillating spring with a mass attached. There is some confusion as to whether this is part of an experiment or just an observation, and the most accurate way to calculate the spring constant is by measuring the frequency of oscillation. However, if given the force-time or position-time graphs, the spring constant can also be determined.
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John Sena
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Assume a spring with a mass attached is oscillating.
Can i find spring constant from force/time and position/time graph using mgh=1/2kx^2?
The force in force/time graph is collected from force meter attached at the top of the spring.
The positin in position/time graph is the distance of the mass from the ground.
 
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John Sena said:
Assume a spring with a mass attached is oscillating.
Can i find spring constant from force/time and position/time graph using mgh=1/2kx^2?
The force in force/time graph is collected from force meter attached at the top of the spring.
The positin in position/time graph is the distance of the mass from the ground.

If you write a function for x(t) what do you get? x(t) = x(t=0) + ... Does this expression have k anywhere? How does this relate to an important time interval?
 
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Draw a free body diagram for the mass, and write a force balance for the mass. What do you get?

Chet
 
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John Sena said:
Assume a spring with a mass attached is oscillating.
Can i find spring constant from force/time and position/time graph using mgh=1/2kx^2?
The force in force/time graph is collected from force meter attached at the top of the spring.
The positin in position/time graph is the distance of the mass from the ground.

There is something not quite clear here and it requires a bit more explanation.

First of all, is this something that is part of a measurement or experiment? Are you simply given a spring with a mass, and it is ALREADY oscillating? How accurate do you need this to be?

You see, if this is simply an experiment or an observation, you can easily calculate the spring constant by simply measuring the frequency of oscillation. Measure how many times the mass makes a complete oscillation in one second, and you have the frequency of oscillation. Then simply use the fact that for a SHO system,

f = (1/2pi)*(sqr(k/m)

Knowing the mass, you immediately get the value of k.

Asking if you can find the spring constant from the force-time or position-time graph is vague. Were you GIVEN these or were you asked to measure these?

Zz.
 
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Yes, it is possible to find the spring constant from a graph of force vs. time and position vs. time. However, it is important to note that the equation mgh=1/2kx^2 is not applicable in this scenario. This equation is used for calculating potential energy, not the spring constant.

To find the spring constant, you can use the equation F = -kx, where F is the force applied by the spring, k is the spring constant, and x is the displacement from the equilibrium position. By analyzing the force vs. time and position vs. time graphs, you can determine the maximum force and maximum displacement of the spring. Then, you can use the equation F = -kx to calculate the spring constant.

It is also important to make sure that the spring is behaving in a linear manner, meaning that the force applied by the spring is directly proportional to the displacement. If the graph is not linear, the spring constant cannot be accurately determined.

In conclusion, while it is possible to find the spring constant from a graph, it is important to use the correct equation and ensure that the spring is behaving in a linear manner.
 

Related to Finding spring constant from a graph

What is a spring constant?

A spring constant is a measure of the stiffness of a spring, and is represented by the symbol k. It is a physical property that determines how much force is needed to stretch or compress a spring by a certain distance.

How do you find the spring constant from a graph?

To find the spring constant from a graph, you need to calculate the slope of the linear portion of the graph. This slope represents the ratio of force to displacement, which is the definition of the spring constant. You can also use the equation k = F/x, where k is the spring constant, F is the applied force, and x is the displacement.

What is the relationship between force and displacement in a spring?

The relationship between force and displacement in a spring is linear, meaning that as the force applied to the spring increases, the displacement of the spring also increases proportionally. This relationship is represented by Hooke's Law, which states that the force applied to a spring is directly proportional to the displacement of the spring.

Can the spring constant change?

Yes, the spring constant can change depending on factors such as the material of the spring, the length of the spring, and the number of coils in the spring. The spring constant can also change if the spring is damaged or deformed.

How is the spring constant used in real life?

The spring constant is used in many real-life applications, such as in the design of springs for shock absorbers in cars, suspension systems in bicycles, and mattresses. It is also used in engineering and physics experiments to study the properties of materials and to measure forces. Additionally, the spring constant is used in the production of various everyday items, such as pens, door handles, and exercise equipment.

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