Finding F2 & F3 in a Hook with Given FR & F1

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In summary, the textbook does not cover this situation where you need to find the resultant, F2 and F3, if you have FR and F1. You can find the resultant by solving the equations for x and y components and then using the pythagoras theorem to get the magnitude of the resultant.
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Homework Statement


I know how to find the resultant or a force if I have been given 1 or 2 or 3 forces etc. Or find a force if I have been given the resultant. However in my textbook there was nothing on a situation where I need to find F2 and F3 if I have been given FR and F1 right?
My question is:
A hook has been subjected to three forces (F1,F2,F3). FR (resultant) = 150kN and its angle from positive x-axis is 60.
F1 = 35kN & angle is 180 from positive x axis.
Calculate magnitude of F2 and F3.
(F2 angle = 135 and F3 angle = 30)

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The Attempt at a Solution


Where I was going with it:
I thought i would write two equations summing the x and y components and then use simultaneous equations to solve..

Sum of x-components:
(35kN)cos(180) + (F2)cos(135) + (F3)cos(30) = (150kN)cos(60)

Sum of y-components:
(35kN)sin(180) + (F2)sin(135) + (F3)sin(30) = (150kN)sin(60)

Then I got to this point and thought, geez, i havn't used simultaneous equations in god knows how long... Didn't really know where to go from here. If anyone can help explain simultaneous equations to this particular problem that would be amazing!
Or, better yet if I went about my initial attempt completely wrong.. then please let me know. Thankyou in advance!
 
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Rearrange one equation to the form F2 = long equation

Then in the other equation replace F2 with that long equation.

Then rearrange the resulting equation to the form F3 = ...

Plug in the numbers to give a value for F3.
 
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look
there are 2 ways
1 : if you have their components you can just add them together * the x and y Or i and j *
if you don't
2 : you can resolve the forces into perpendicular directions
then add the perpendicular components * the x components together and the y components together *
then now you have the components of the resultant
now get the magnitude of the resultant by the pythagoras theorem
square root of X^2 + Y^2 . now you have the magnitude of the vector resultant
the direction of the resultant is basically 1/tan (y/x)
 

Related to Finding F2 & F3 in a Hook with Given FR & F1

1. What is F2 and F3 in a hook?

F2 and F3 refer to the second and third forces, respectively, in a hook. In physics, a hook is a simple machine that consists of a curved arm attached to a fixed point, with a load or weight suspended at the end. F2 is the force applied to the hook by the load, while F3 is the reaction force exerted by the fixed point on the hook.

2. How do you find F2 and F3 in a hook?

To find F2 and F3 in a hook, you need to know the applied force on the hook (F1) and the force ratio (FR). The formula for calculating F2 and F3 is F2 = F1/FR and F3 = F1 - F2. For example, if F1 is 100 Newtons and FR is 2, then F2 would be 50 Newtons and F3 would be 50 Newtons.

3. What is the force ratio (FR) in a hook?

The force ratio (FR) in a hook is the ratio of the applied force (F1) to the reaction force (F3). It is a measure of the mechanical advantage of the hook. A higher FR means that the hook can lift a heavier load with less applied force, making it more efficient.

4. Can F2 and F3 be equal in a hook?

Yes, F2 and F3 can be equal in a hook if the force ratio (FR) is 1. This means that the applied force (F1) and the reaction force (F3) are equal, resulting in a balanced system. However, in most cases, the force ratio will be greater than 1, resulting in F2 and F3 being different.

5. What is the significance of finding F2 and F3 in a hook?

Finding F2 and F3 in a hook is important for understanding the mechanical advantage and efficiency of the hook. It allows us to determine how much force is needed to lift a certain load and how much force is exerted on the fixed point. This information can be useful in designing and optimizing machines that use hooks, such as cranes and pulley systems.

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