I, II, III Civilazation Tech

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In summary: France? I've never heard of that place... what is it like there?SelfAdjoint is from France. He seems to be upset that people are not paying more attention to the von Neumann probes. He believes that they will be used by the Others to invade Earth. He also thinks that the Fermi paradox is a paradox only to a blind man.
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What is:
Photonic drive
Von Neymann nano probe
EM propultion
Planck energy propulsion

I want to know more on the Dyson Sphere and what other new technologies are scientists perciving for the future?
 
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Originally posted by Mk
What is:
Photonic drive
Von Neymann nano probe
EM propultion
Planck energy propulsion

I want to know more on the Dyson Sphere and what other new technologies are scientists perciving for the future?

Photonic drive...Using photons as a propulsion, seeing as photons travel at the speed of light...why not use then as a propultion device?

Von Nueymann nano probe...cant extally member what they do...but I think that they are probes that are sposed to build replicas of themselves and improve themselves

EM propulsion...Electro Magnetic propulsion, manipulating large magnetic fields to propel a vehicle

Planeck energy...this is only attainable by a Type-III civilization as I remember and this means that the civizalation understands the Theory of Everything and that, that can maniuplate Strings...if they exist and when you can maniuplate everything...you can propell a ship with that, or you will find a way to propell it
 
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Good answer. You got Von Neuman probes right. They are small self replicating robots. You seed the galaxy with them, they land on any likely planet and reproduce to terraform it (that is, change its surface and climate to be like Earth). So when your human expansion gets there it's all ready for you.
 
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Originally posted by selfAdjoint
Good answer. You got Von Neuman probes right. They are small self replicating robots. You seed the galaxy with them, they land on any likely planet and reproduce to terraform it (that is, change its surface and climate to be like Earth). So when your human expansion gets there it's all ready for you.

Yes, a wondeful idea, except we do not own the universe, and if you were to actually
release things into the universe of this nature, God would surely make you clean up every single last one of them, even if it took forever. Like the character in a Douglas Adams
novel, who was immortal, and chose to spend eternity on a quest, to insult every
living thing.

Which reminds me, (checking list) Dr. Von Neuman, you are a banty eyed,
snoot nosed, hollow headed, banter snort.
 
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Actually I think that von Neumann conceived these as something the Others would do to us, rather than the reverse. And then we get back to Fermi's original query: Where are they?

BTW it's rich you shooting a list of standardized insults at (the memory of) Dr. von Neumann over the web! He is, as the devisor of the stored program computer, one of the folks you can thank for the opportunity to do that.
 
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Originally posted by selfAdjoint
Actually I think that von Neumann conceived these as something the Others would do to us, rather than the reverse. And then we get back to Fermi's original query: Where are they?

BTW it's rich you shooting a list of standardized insults at (the memory of) Dr. von Neumann over the web! He is, as the devisor of the stored program computer, one of the folks you can thank for the opportunity to do that.

I take it then that all I have heard about him has been merely disinformation or
some sort of smear against his noble bomb devising WMD inventing, heinous
evil parasitic universal nanobotic good nature.

That may be so. I am just somewhat averse to him based on some of those
smears I suppose.

But as for Fermi's paradox, there are 75,000 UFO reports per year.

Based on statistical analysis of the size of the universe and the number of stars
and the percentage which should have hospitable planets to support life,
and according to probability = truth, they are indeed here if just one of those
reports is indeed a factual report.

Here is a disk from another time and place Mr Kaku if you are listening...
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Space.html

Here are the documents which describe in detail the efforts to save the life
of J-rod an EBE housed at S4
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page1.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page2.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page3.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page4.jpg
Some of the story behind it
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod1.htm [Broken]
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod2.htm [Broken]
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod3.htm [Broken]

Here is a General Electric time machine from 2036
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html
http://www.johntitor.com/

Here is a Bell Ranger Helicopter on a heiroglyph from the Temple at Karnac
as well as a relief of a Saturn 5 rocket in a temple at Kush

http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/cosmicegypt.html

And here is Dr. Kaku on Art BEll saying things such as "We physicists believe"

Well what you mean we white man ;-)

In the off chance that you truly do not know that the Fermi Paradox is only a
paradox to a blind man, I appologize that no one took the time to bring you
into the loop.


Now then, (checking list once again) selfAdjoint... selfAdjoint, Hmmm isn't
that strange, you wouldn't by chance be from France would you?

-*-
Rick of the ooha wooha MuHaBeans
 
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Originally posted by Rick Sobie
I take it then that all I have heard about him has been merely disinformation or
some sort of smear against his noble bomb devising WMD inventing, heinous
evil parasitic universal nanobotic good nature.

That may be so. I am just somewhat averse to him based on some of those
smears I suppose.

But as for Fermi's paradox, there are 75,000 UFO reports per year.

Based on statistical analysis of the size of the universe and the number of stars
and the percentage which should have hospitable planets to support life,
and according to probability = truth, they are indeed here if just one of those
reports is indeed a factual report.

Here is a disk from another time and place Mr Kaku if you are listening...
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Space.html

Here are the documents which describe in detail the efforts to save the life
of J-rod an EBE housed at S4
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page1.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page2.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page3.jpg
http://www.members.shaw.ca/ricksobie/Page4.jpg
Some of the story behind it
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod1.htm [Broken]
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod2.htm [Broken]
http://www.boomspeed.com/joseph2/J-Rod3.htm [Broken]

Here is a General Electric time machine from 2036
http://www.anomalies.net/time_travel/john.html
http://www.johntitor.com/

Here is a Bell Ranger Helicopter on a heiroglyph from the Temple at Karnac
as well as a relief of a Saturn 5 rocket in a temple at Kush

http://www.darkstar1.co.uk/cosmicegypt.html

And here is Dr. Kaku on Art BEll saying things such as "We physicists believe"

Well what you mean we white man ;-)

In the off chance that you truly do not know that the Fermi Paradox is only a
paradox to a blind man, I appologize that no one took the time to bring you
into the loop.


Now then, (checking list once again) selfAdjoint... selfAdjoint, Hmmm isn't
that strange, you wouldn't by chance be from France would you?

-*-
Rick of the ooha wooha MuHaBeans

I just wanted to add that perhaps Michio, you might make some comments on the above items as although I have thoroughly enjoyed your interviews on Art Bell over the
years, I came away feeling as though until we can actuially scoop out,
a portion of the sun itself, and bring it back to earth, we will never be able to
rise above the standard model.

And we both know that 10 dimensional fishing is much more exciting than
say normal fishing.

And I am not suggesting that your views on time travel for instance
have been less interesting than the images sent back from the Mars rover Spirit,
http://www.space.com/businesstechnology/technology/pancam_techwed_040114.html [Broken]
of which I can only repeat the words of Squyres: "It looks like nothing that I’ve ever seen in
my life. Holly smokes. I’ve got nothing else to say. I just want to look. I’ve got no words for this."

But all in all I do wonder who is mindin' those switches in the bunkers some days
if you know what I mean.

One can only hope that aliens have indeed landed taken over and asumed control
otherwise, one might indeed fear for their lives in these oh so troubling days
as we sit perched on the edge, living in fear, of this, this, potential global
nuclear catastrophe, which you have so eloquently brought to our attention,
and which you and your mentors, friends and associates, have created.

In closing, I would just like to say, thankyou again, for at least venturing onto
the Art Bell show, and sharing with us, your expertise and giving us the
prospective from the top of the heap as it were.

Oh, one more thing, and I don't know if you take requests at all,
but I would love to hear your explanation of the Hutchison Effect.
Your 10 dimensional explanation would suffice if the standard
model is insufficient for your needs.
http://www.americanantigravity.com/hutchison.html [Broken]
 
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Gee, not a whole lot of trafic in this area it would seem.

Well, its been a couple days now, and well frankly, I am getting a bit sleepy
all this waiting around for a reply and all, so I guess I will be on my way.

But Michio, thanks again man. I have truly enjoyed your interviews,
and just by appearing on the Art Bell show, you bring with you
a measure of credibility that often is sadly lacking in these shows.

I did get the impression though that perhaps your busy schedule
keeps you from staying abreast of the latest developments and
I invite you to venture over to

http://www.ufoevidence.org/forums/Forum.asp

for some pleasant conversation and to discuss the leading edge
of the unkown in this area.

It is always nice to be aware of the latest information so you won't find yourself
in the dark, when a caller to a time traveller show asks you about Dr. Anderson
for instance.

Anyway, again thanks, and please do come by for a chat if you a chance.

Keep up the 'good' work.

Hosawetva!
 

1. What is a Type I, II, or III Civilization?

A Type I Civilization is a hypothetical civilization that has harnessed all of the energy available on its planet. A Type II Civilization is a civilization that has harnessed all of the energy available from its home star. Finally, a Type III Civilization is a civilization that has harnessed all of the energy available in its home galaxy.

2. How do we measure a civilization's technological advancement?

A common measure of technological advancement is the Kardashev scale, which is based on the amount of energy a civilization is able to harness.

3. Are there any known Type III Civilizations?

There are currently no known Type III Civilizations. Some scientists speculate that there may be Type III Civilizations in other parts of the universe, but there is no concrete evidence to support this.

4. What technologies would a Type III Civilization possess?

A Type III Civilization would likely possess highly advanced technologies, including interstellar travel, terraforming, and the ability to manipulate energy on a galactic scale.

5. Could humans ever become a Type III Civilization?

It is currently unknown if humans will ever reach Type III Civilization status. Some scientists believe that it is possible, but it would require significant advancements in technology and a sustainable use of resources.

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