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anemone

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For what values of b do the equation \(\displaystyle 1988x^2+bx+8891=0\) and \(\displaystyle 8891x^2+bx+1988=0\) have a common root?
 

mathmaniac

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For what values of b do the equation \(\displaystyle 1988x^2+bx+8891=0\) and \(\displaystyle 8891x^2+bx+1988=0\) have a common root?
\(\displaystyle 1988x^2+bx+8891=0=8891x^2+bx+1988\)

\(\displaystyle (8891-1988)x^2-(8891-1988)=0\)
\(\displaystyle x^2=1\)

So x=1
 
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anemone

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\(\displaystyle 1988x^2+bx+8891=0=8891x^2+bx+1988\)

\(\displaystyle (8891-1988)x^2-(8891-1988)=0\)
\(\displaystyle x^2=1\)

So x=1
Thanks for participating, mathmaniac but hey, we're asked to solve for b instead...(Wondering)
 

mathmaniac

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oooH!!!
I am fast,didn't even read the question carefully!!!
Ok...
b=-(8891+1988)=-10879


Honestly I felt no challenge in this one while most of your other questions seemed challenging...
Hoping to get more challenges from you...


Edit:I got the numbers wrong in my mind...The same carelessness I show in exams
 
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MarkFL

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Let's let $r$ be the common root, and we may express the first quadratic as:

\(\displaystyle 1988(x-r)\left(x-\frac{8891}{1988r} \right)=1988x^2-(8891+1988r)x+8891\)

and the second quadratic may be expressed:

\(\displaystyle 8891(x-r)\left(x-\frac{1988}{8891r} \right)=8891x^2-(1988+8891r)x+1988\)

Thus, we must have:

\(\displaystyle -b=8891+1988r=1988+8891r\implies r=1\implies b=-10879\)

Thus, we find that when $b=-10879$ the two quadratics share the root $r=1$.
 

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mathmaniac

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I got the numbers wrong in my mind!!!:eek:
 

Jameson

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I got the numbers wrong in my mind!!!:eek:
One of the implied conditions of saying a problem is "easy" is to get it correct. ;) You seem to be in a hurry often when you are posting. We really encourage our users to take a few minutes for every post so we have a higher "post:content" ratio than most forums. It also helps cut down on mistakes and is more efficient for communicating. The same thing goes for formatting equations in Latex - it looks more professional and is easier for others to read. In general, making quality posts is a sign of respect to those who take time to read them. Everything you post is read by multiple people believe it or not :)

I remember being similar when I was 15 - doing problems in my head, rushing through things because answers were trivial, etc. but try to fight your instincts while posting here and I think you'll get more of out MHB. :)
 

MarkFL

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In my haste, I also made an error. I should have written:

Let's let $r$ be the common root, and we may express the first quadratic as:

\(\displaystyle 1988(x-r)\left(x-\frac{8891}{1988r} \right)=1988x^2-\left(\frac{8891}{r}+1988r \right)x+8891\)

and the second quadratic may be expressed:

\(\displaystyle 8891(x-r)\left(x-\frac{1988}{8891r} \right)=8891x^2-\left(\frac{1988}{r}+8891r \right)x+1988\)

Thus, we must have:

\(\displaystyle -b=\frac{8891}{r}+1988r=\frac{1988}{r}+8891r \implies r^2=1 \implies b=\pm10879\)

Thus, we find that when $b=\pm10879$ the two quadratics share the root $r=\pm1$.
 

mathmaniac

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We both made the same mistake!!!(me once again)
 

kaliprasad

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There is another solution

We can eliminate x^2 from both to get
8891(1988x2+bx+8891) – 1988(8891x2+bx+1988) = 0

Or bx(8891-1988) = 1988^2- 9981 => bx = - (8891 + 1988) = - 10879 ..3

Subtracting 2nd one from 1st we get (1988-8891) x^2 + (8891 – 1988) = 0 or x^2 = 1 +> x = 1 or – 1

From (3) if x = 1 then b = - 10879 and if x = - 1 then b = 10879
 

MarkFL

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Do you perhaps mean:

There is another solution method:

We are given:

(1) \(\displaystyle 1988x^2+bx+8891=0\)

(2) \(\displaystyle 8891x^2+bx+1988=0\)

We can eliminate $x^2$ from both to get:

\(\displaystyle 8891(1988x^2+bx+8891)–1988(8891x^2+bx+1988)=0\)

Or:

\(\displaystyle bx(8891-1988)=1988^2-8891^2\)

(3) \(\displaystyle bx=-(8891 + 1988)=-10879\)

Subtracting (2) one from (1) we get:

\(\displaystyle (1988-8891)x^2+(8891–1988)=0\,\therefore\,x^2=1\, \therefore\,x=\pm1\)

From (3) if $x=1$ then $b=-10879$ and if $x=-1$ then $b=10879$