Find the spring constant 'k' by using the slope of my graph

In summary: So k is in Nm. To make it easier to compare, you can convert k to g/s using the following equation: k=g/slope
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units ??

Homework Statement



This should be straightforward but I'm not sure what to do. If I make a graph and the Y axis is in cm, and the X is in g, does cm/g make sense?

I'm trying to find the spring constant 'k' by using the slope of my graph. When I do this I get a huge number so I'm playing with units to bring it down.


Homework Equations


k = g/slope (g = 980 cm/s^2)


The Attempt at a Solution


using the info. gathered my k = (980 cm/s^2) / 0.073 = 13520.55
this sounds extremely high. My slope units are what's throwing me I think. Does 0.073 cm/g make sense? Then, would the units be 13520.55 g/s^2 ?

I believe k is supposed to be in N m, so I'm not sure this is right ?!
 
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The spring constant is in units of force per unit displacement, N/cm. I don't know what you're plotting, but it sounds like you haven't done it right.

You should give us the entire problem, exactly as it was given to you, and we can help you with it.

- Warren
 
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No the spring constant is N/m

just check it:

Potential energy stored in a compressed spring = (1/2)*k*x^2 ; where k is the spring constant and x is the compression in meters.

[J]=k[m^2]
k=[J/m^2]=[Nm/m^2]=[N/m]
 
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I'm actually plotting two graphs and comparing the k values.

The first graph is measuring displacement vs mass. So, in my case its cm vs grams.

The second is measuring period squared (T^2) vs mass. In my case, its seconds^squared vs grams.

I draw line of best fit and determine the slope. From here, K is determined using one of two equations. The first graph is k=g/slope, the second graph 4pi^2/slope.

Drawing Max/Min lines for determining slope error, I get the error for slope. Maybe this is where I go wrong.

I need to do the math for discrepancy which is the difference between the k values, divided by the square root of the sum of the squares of their errors (I used slope error here - giving me a value around +/- 0.003)

My question about units comes here. Because my k is huge (14000) and (15000) for example, when I do the discrepancy equation I get a ridiculous answer like 333333.33 when the answer should be close to 2.

I thought units may be the problem for such a large value, but I'm not sure. The K's I'm comparing will both have different values (graph 1: cm/g, graph 2: s^2/g) so how do I make them the same to compare?
 
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Got it! :smile:
 

Related to Find the spring constant 'k' by using the slope of my graph

1. What is the purpose of finding the spring constant 'k'?

The spring constant 'k' is a measure of the stiffness of a spring. It is an important parameter in understanding the behavior of a spring and can be used to predict the amount of force a spring will exert when compressed or stretched.

2. How do I use the slope of my graph to find the spring constant 'k'?

The spring constant 'k' can be calculated by taking the slope of a graph that plots the force applied to a spring against its corresponding displacement. The slope of this line represents the spring constant, with a steeper slope indicating a higher value of 'k' and a flatter slope indicating a lower value of 'k'.

3. What measurements do I need to find the spring constant 'k'?

To find the spring constant 'k', you will need to measure the force applied to the spring and the corresponding displacement. These measurements can be taken using a force gauge and ruler, or through more advanced methods such as a force sensor and motion detector.

4. Can the spring constant 'k' vary for different springs?

Yes, the spring constant 'k' can vary for different types of springs. It is a unique characteristic of each spring and is dependent on factors such as the material, shape, and size of the spring.

5. Are there any other methods for finding the spring constant 'k'?

Yes, there are other methods for finding the spring constant 'k' besides using the slope of a graph. These include using Hooke's Law, which states that the force applied to a spring is directly proportional to its displacement, and using the natural frequency of a spring-mass system.

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