What is the Role of Gravitons in the Spin and Mass of Charged Particles?

In summary, gravitons are believed to increase the mass and angular speed of a charged sphere, while also being the carriers of the gravitational force. However, the idea that gravitons and photons are massless due to the lack of spinning charge is not entirely accurate, as particles like quarks with mass can still combine to form massless particles. It is also believed that the force of gravity is created by spinning one-dimensional space, and there must be two spin axes in order for total spin configuration to be conserved. Incorporating these ideas can lead to a close agreement for the mass ratio of a proton and electron.
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Gravitons increase the speed at which a charge sphere spins and increase its mass.
So an electron has a smaller mass than a proton because its spins more slowly.
Because the proton has 1835 x mass of electron and because the electron spins at 10 ^ 14 metres per second - to give the observed magnetic moment- this means,bearing in mind (1 – v^2 / vfast^2)^ 1/2 , that the proton spins at 10 ^ 17 metres per second – at least !
The spin of a charge sphere is quantised.
Gravitons and photons are massless because they don’t have spinning charges.
It is my belief that they consist of non-spinning quarks.
 
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...wow. OK, let's begin at the top. Gravitons increase the angular speed of a charged sphere? I'm not sure where this one comes from. Gravitons increase mass? A very odd way of looking at it, but, I suppose, acceptable. Mass is that quality of a body which is it's resistance to acceleration. Gravitons are the carriers of the gravitational force. In the presence of more gravitons, it is plausible that mass might be considered to increase, although I doubt it; we'll have to wait for a theory of quantum gravity to find out for sure. Electrons have less mass because they spin less quickly? Where did this idea come from in the first place?

By vfast I assume you mean c, given the placement in the equation.

How you can say gravtions and photons are massless due to the lack of spinning charge is beyond me. Nuetrons have no charge, and yet have mass. Even more baffling is the statement that gravitons and photons are made of non-spinning quarks. How, exactly, could particles like quarks with mass combine into a massless particle?
 
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What actually creates the force of gravity is not spinning charge but spinning one dimensional space (accelerated - constant change of direction but the magnitude stays the same). There must be two spin axes (path of one is the axis of the other) in order for total spin configuration to be conserved. The invariant quantity is the square of energy, a true quantum. There are two kinds of square of energy. Their matrix addition gives values for electric charge and their matrix multiplication gives values for mass. The incorporation of these ideas gives close agreement for the mass ratio of proton and electron within 1 percent of experimental error.
 

1. How does gravity affect spinning charges?

Gravity affects all objects with mass, including spinning charges. The force of gravity is proportional to the mass of the objects involved, so a spinning charge with more mass will experience a greater gravitational force. However, the spin of the charge itself does not directly influence the force of gravity.

2. Can spinning charges create their own gravitational force?

Yes, spinning charges can create their own gravitational force. This is known as the Lense-Thirring effect, where a rotating mass can create a frame-dragging effect on the space-time around it, causing objects to orbit differently than they would around a non-rotating mass.

3. How does the spin of a charge affect its electromagnetic properties?

The spin of a charge does not directly affect its electromagnetic properties. However, the spin of a charge can influence its angular momentum, which can in turn affect its magnetic moment and other electromagnetic properties.

4. Can spinning charges produce gravitational waves?

Yes, spinning charges can produce gravitational waves. This is because any accelerating mass, including a spinning charge, can create ripples in the fabric of space-time, which we perceive as gravitational waves.

5. How does the spin of a charge affect its interaction with other particles?

The spin of a charge can affect its interaction with other particles through the electromagnetic force. For example, two particles with opposite spins will be attracted to each other, while two particles with the same spin will repel each other. This is known as the Pauli exclusion principle and plays a crucial role in the behavior of subatomic particles.

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