Expanding universe & relativity

In summary, the conversation discusses the idea that the universe may have expanded faster than the speed of light and how this relates to relativity. There is a general consensus that this is true and it is not a controversial topic. The concept of space expanding faster than the speed of light while particles remain slower is also mentioned. The speaker also mentions understanding this concept through a recent thread and clarifies that physicists do not use the phrase "just a theory" seriously.
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As we know we see the universe at points in its infancy when the universe was born however for us to be here to see the light we must have either 1) Gone faster than the speed of light and 2) always existed here somehow.

Is there a general consensus that space actually expanded faster than the speed of light or is this so far still just theory? And how does this hold with relativity. (I see that space expanding > c while the particles themselves are < c would hold true)
 
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Yes, there is a general consensus. There's nothing controversial about it. See e.g. this recent thread about it. (It's the thread where I finally understood how this works). If you look in the astronomy and cosmology forums you'll find lots of other threads about it.

I don't follow your logic in the first paragraph. We have definitely not been here forever, and we haven't "gone" faster than the speed of light. The distance between two galaxies can increase faster than the speed of light without the galaxies moving at all.

I also have to add that physicists never use the phrase "just a theory" except as a joke.
 
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The idea of an expanding universe and relativity is a complex and ongoing topic of discussion in the scientific community. While there is evidence to support the theory of an expanding universe, the exact mechanisms and implications are still being studied and debated.

One aspect of this theory is the idea that the universe is expanding faster than the speed of light. This can be a difficult concept to grasp, as the speed of light is often seen as a fundamental limit in the universe. However, it is important to note that the speed of light is a limit for objects within space, not for the expansion of space itself.

In other words, while objects within the universe may be limited to speeds less than the speed of light, the fabric of space itself can expand at any speed. This is consistent with the principles of relativity, as the expansion of space is not limited by the laws of physics within space.

As for the question of whether this is still just a theory or if there is a general consensus, it is important to understand that science is an ever-evolving field. Theories are constantly being tested and refined, and our understanding of the universe is constantly expanding.

There is a wealth of evidence and observations that support the theory of an expanding universe, but there are also ongoing studies and debates about its exact mechanisms and implications. So while there may not be a definitive consensus at this time, the evidence and research suggest that the idea of an expanding universe is a valid and important concept in our understanding of the universe.
 

Related to Expanding universe & relativity

1. What is the expanding universe theory?

The expanding universe theory, also known as the Big Bang theory, suggests that the universe began as a singularity and has been expanding since its creation. This expansion is supported by observations of the redshift of distant galaxies, which indicates that they are moving away from us at increasing speeds.

2. How does the theory of relativity relate to the expanding universe?

The theory of relativity, specifically Einstein's general theory of relativity, provides the mathematical framework for understanding the expansion of the universe. It describes how matter and energy, including the fabric of space-time, interact and affect the expansion of the universe.

3. What evidence supports the expanding universe theory?

Aside from the observations of redshift in distant galaxies, the expanding universe theory is also supported by the cosmic microwave background radiation, which is the leftover radiation from the initial stages of the Big Bang. Additionally, the abundance of light elements in the universe, such as hydrogen and helium, can only be explained by the expansion and cooling of the universe since the Big Bang.

4. Can the expansion of the universe be observed in real-time?

No, the expansion of the universe occurs on a cosmic scale and is not directly observable in real-time. However, scientists can observe the effects of the expansion through the redshift of galaxies and other cosmological phenomena.

5. Is the expansion of the universe continuous?

Yes, the expansion of the universe is continuous and ongoing. However, the rate of expansion has changed over time, with the universe initially expanding at a rapid rate and then slowing down as it aged. Recent observations have also suggested that the expansion rate may be increasing again due to the presence of dark energy.

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