Estimated probibility does not match results, why? (galaxies)

In summary: Forum member In summary, the conversation discusses the use of binomial distribution to analyze the distribution of spiral galaxies in a sample from the core of a large cluster of galaxies. The initial statement about 75% of galaxies being spirals is an average value for the entire universe, and the probability of seeing only 3 spiral galaxies in a sample of 14 is quite low. However, other factors such as the dynamics of the cluster and the environment may affect the distribution of galaxy types in the core. Therefore, it is important to consider these factors when interpreting the results of this sample.
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Homework Statement



my book states that approx 75% of galaxies in the universe are spirals, but then it says that out of a sample of 14 from the core of a large cluster of galaxies only 3 were found to be spiral.

it was suggested we could use binomial distribution to look at the prob of seeing such small fractions in order to draw a conclusion.

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i showed binomial prob of seeing 3 was 3.66e-5, and that one would expect 10.5 spirals with a variance of 2.625. clearly this is based on the initial statement of 75% and that is of the whole galaxy, whereas we are looking at a cluster core. so i expect we should have a different prediction.

but is there any other things that can be seen using the binomial distribution to discuss seeing such small fractions?

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Your question is a very interesting one and it raises some important points about the use of binomial distribution in this scenario. First of all, it is important to note that the initial statement about 75% of galaxies being spirals is an average value for the entire universe. When we look at a small sample of galaxies, such as the 14 from the core of a large cluster, it is possible to see a different distribution of galaxy types.

Using binomial distribution, we can calculate the probability of seeing a certain number of spiral galaxies in a sample of 14, given the overall percentage of spirals in the universe. As you have correctly calculated, the probability of seeing only 3 spiral galaxies in this sample is quite low, indicating that this result is unlikely to occur by chance. However, as you mentioned, this calculation is based on the assumption that the percentage of spirals in the cluster core should be similar to the average percentage in the universe.

There are a few other factors that could affect the distribution of galaxy types in a cluster core, such as the dynamics of the cluster and the environment in which the galaxies are located. It is possible that these factors could lead to a different distribution of galaxy types in the core compared to the rest of the universe. Therefore, it is important to consider these factors when interpreting the results of this sample.

In addition, as you mentioned, the variance of 2.625 indicates that there may be some variation in the number of spiral galaxies that we would expect to see in a sample of 14. This could be due to random chance or other factors that may affect the distribution of galaxy types in a cluster core.

Overall, using binomial distribution can provide valuable insights into the probability of seeing certain results in a sample, but it is important to consider other factors that may affect the distribution of galaxy types in a specific environment. I hope this helps to answer your question and provides some additional considerations for your analysis. Keep up the good work!


 

Related to Estimated probibility does not match results, why? (galaxies)

1. Why is the estimated probability of a galaxy not matching the actual results?

There are several potential reasons for this discrepancy. One possibility is that there are unknown factors or variables at play that were not accounted for in the estimation. Another possibility is that there may be errors or limitations in the methods used to estimate the probability. Additionally, the actual results may have been influenced by chance or random events that could not have been predicted.

2. Can the estimated probability of a galaxy change over time?

Yes, the estimated probability of a galaxy can change over time. This is because new data and observations can lead to updates and revisions in the estimation. Furthermore, the conditions and environment of a galaxy can also change over time, which can affect its probability of certain outcomes.

3. How accurate are estimates of galaxy probabilities?

The accuracy of estimates of galaxy probabilities can vary. It depends on the methods and data used to make the estimation, as well as the complexity and unpredictability of the galaxy being studied. In some cases, estimates may be highly accurate, while in others they may have a larger margin of error.

4. What impact does dark matter have on estimated galaxy probabilities?

Dark matter can have a significant impact on estimated galaxy probabilities. This is because dark matter makes up a large portion of a galaxy's mass and can affect its gravitational interactions with other objects. Therefore, it is important to account for dark matter in estimations of galaxy probabilities.

5. Can estimated probabilities of galaxies be used to make predictions?

Yes, estimated probabilities of galaxies can be used to make predictions. However, it is important to keep in mind that these predictions are based on current knowledge and data, and can change as new information is gathered. Additionally, predictions based on estimated probabilities may not always be accurate due to the unpredictable nature of galaxies.

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