Equivalent conditions for a measurability restriction?

In summary: For example, if we take the union of all partitions of T that make a function measurable, then it must be that every function on that union is measurable, so retracting any function from that union would make it not measurable. But I'm not sure if this is a precise statement or not.In summary, under the product topology, Z is a compact metrizable space.
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Let [itex]Z:= A^T[/itex], where [itex]T[/itex] is a countable set and [itex]A[/itex] is a finite set. Under the product topology, [itex]Z[/itex] is a compact metrizable space. (As a special case, notice that [itex]Z[/itex] could be the Cantor set).

Given a closed set [itex]X \subseteq Z[/itex], I'm interested in answering the question, "Does there exist some partition [itex]\mathcal P[/itex] of [itex]T[/itex] such that [itex]X = \{f \in Z: \enspace f \text{ is } \mathcal P\text{-measurable}\}[/itex]?"

Is anybody here aware of any alternative formulations of the above question? For example, is there a topological characterization?
 
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What do you mean with measurable with respect to a partition?
 
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micromass said:
What do you mean with measurable with respect to a partition?

Sorry, I could have been clearer...

I meant measurable functions [tex](T, \Sigma)\to (A, 2^A),[/tex] where [itex]\Sigma[/itex] is the [itex]\sigma[/itex]-algebra generated by [itex]\mathcal P[/itex].
 
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Given a single function ##f##, this is a closed set ##\{f\}##. Clearly the coarsest ##\sigma##-algebra that makes ##f## measurable is

[tex]\sigma(f) := \{f^{-1}(E)~\vert~E\subseteq A\}[/tex]

This is clearly generated by the partition ##\{f^{-1}(a)~\vert~a\in A\}##.
But any function constant on the partition is also measurable. In particular, the globally constant functions are measurable. So there is no ##\sigma##-algebra which only makes ##f## measurable. So the answer is negative because it fails for ##\{f\}##.
 
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Right. So (given nontrivial [itex]A[/itex]) it's not true for singleton [itex]X[/itex], and therefore not true for arbitrary closed [itex]X.[/itex]

What I'm after is a proposition of the form:

[itex]``[/itex]Given a closed set [itex]X \subseteq Z[/itex]:

[tex] \Phi(X) \iff \exists\mathcal P\text{ such that } X = \{f \in Z: \enspace f \text{ is } \mathcal P\text{-measurable}\} \text{''}[/tex]
where [itex]\Phi(X)[/itex] is some other axiom about [itex]X[/itex], possibly some topological statement.

Said differently, I'm wondering what statements are true of members of [tex]\bigg\{ \{f \in Z: \enspace f \text{ is } \mathcal P\text{-measurable}\}: \enspace \mathcal P \text{ partition of } T\bigg\}[/tex] and fail for every other closed subset of [itex]Z[/itex].

Again, apologies for any lack of clarity (and for being long-winded).
 
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I have some vague notion that there's an equivalent condition involving retractions.
 

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