Energy and states of a particle in a box.

In summary: This is just not true. If you look at what the phase space volume actually is, you get the factor of ##p^2##. The "number of directions" is a handwaving argument with no basis in the mathematics.
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Higgsono
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Suppose we have a classical particle in box. The number of degrees of freedom is 6. The position of the particle and its momenta.

Now if we want to calculate the entropy of the system as a function of the energy we only need to find a relation between all the possible states the particle can be in and its kinetic energy.

The possible states in momentum space is proportional to the surface area of a sphere with radius p, where E=p^2/(2m).

But what I don't understand is this: Why do the number of possible states in momentum space increase with an increase in the kinetic energy of the particle? Sure, the area of the sphere increses with an increase in radius. But why can't we just say that the number of possible states is proportional to the direction of the vector p from the origin? In this case the number of directions which would be the same as the number of possible states of p does not increase with an increase in energy. The number of possible directions is the same independent of the magnitude of p.

So why do we say that the number of possible states increases when the particles momentum increases?
 
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Essentially because the phase space volume element is ##dp_1dp_2dp_3dV##. Going to spherical coordinates in the momentum variables gives you a factor ##p^2## from the Jacobian determinant.

In essence, the reason is therefore the same as why a sphere with larger radius has a larger surface area.
 
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Orodruin said:
Essentially because the phase space volume element is ##dp_1dp_2dp_3dV##. Going to spherical coordinates in the momentum variables gives you a factor ##p^2## from the Jacobian determinant.

In essence, the reason is therefore the same as why a sphere with larger radius has a larger surface area.

But the number of states should be equal to the number of positions times the number of directions in which the particle can move through this point. And since an increase in momentum doesn't increase the number of possible directions, the number of possibles states should not increase either.
 
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Higgsono said:
But the number of states should be equal to the number of positions times the number of directions in which the particle can move through this point. And since an increase in momentum doesn't increase the number of possible directions, the number of possibles states should not increase either.
This is just not true. If you look at what the phase space volume actually is, you get the factor of ##p^2##. The "number of directions" is a handwaving argument with no basis in the mathematics. If you do the math right using the actual phase space volume you get the right result.
 

Related to Energy and states of a particle in a box.

1. What is the particle in a box model?

The particle in a box model is a simplified representation of a quantum mechanical system where a particle is confined to a one-dimensional box. This model is used to study the energy and states of a particle in a confined space.

2. How does the energy of a particle in a box change with different box sizes?

The energy of a particle in a box is quantized, meaning it can only take on certain discrete values. As the size of the box increases, the energy levels also increase. This is because the longer the box, the more allowed wavelengths for the particle, resulting in higher energy levels.

3. What is the significance of the ground state in the particle in a box model?

The ground state is the lowest energy state that a particle can occupy in a box. This state is significant because it represents the most stable and basic state of the system. All other energy levels are measured relative to the ground state.

4. How does the number of nodes in a particle's wave function relate to its energy?

The number of nodes, or points where the wave function crosses the x-axis, in a particle's wave function is directly related to its energy. The more nodes there are, the higher the energy level of the particle. The ground state has no nodes, while each subsequent energy level has one more node than the previous one.

5. Can a particle in a box have negative energy levels?

No, a particle in a box cannot have negative energy levels. This is because the particle is confined to a finite space and its energy levels are quantized, meaning they can only take on certain discrete values. Negative energy levels are not allowed in this system.

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