Electrostatic potential of a split sphere, using the laplacian for spherical coord

In summary, the laplacian for spherical coordinates is a mathematical operator used to describe the behavior of physical systems in spherical coordinates. It is used to calculate the electrostatic potential of a split sphere by taking into account the radial distance, azimuthal angle, and polar angle of each point on the sphere. This is done by solving the Poisson's equation and considering the boundary conditions at each point. The use of the laplacian allows for a more accurate calculation of the electrostatic potential due to the spherical symmetry of the system. As the distance from the center of the sphere increases, the electrostatic potential decreases in a radial manner. Additionally, the laplacian for spherical coordinates can be applied to other physical systems that exhibit spherical symmetry,
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Homework Statement



Two concentric spherical shells. The outer shell is split into two hemispheres at potentials +Vo for the upper half and -Vo for the lower half. The inner shell is at zero potential (see attachment).

" what is the potential in the region; r > R' " (the potential in the space between the spheres is worked out as an example.)


Homework Equations




Pl(u) = legendre polynomial = P(u)l = 1/2^(l)l! * d^l/du^l (u^2 -1)^l


Integral,{bounderies; -1/1] Pl(u)Pn[/I](u) du = 0, if l is not n
Integral,{bounderies; -1/1] Pl(u)Pn[/I](u) du = 2/2l + 1, if l is n

general solutions of the potential in spherical coordinates:
F(r, angle a) = r^(l) Pl (cos a), r^(-l-1)Pl (cos a), l = 0,1,2,3,...

F(r, angle a) = the electrostatic potential dependent on radius(r) and one angle since axial symmetry is assumed


The Attempt at a Solution



the following attempt is a bit elaborate but in the end it comes down to finding the specific coefficient Am which has to be obtained form this formula:
Pm(cos a) sin a F(r', angle a) =
summ from l is 0 to infinity of [ {Al r'^(l) + Al r'^(-l-1)} Pl Pm(cos a) sin a(cos a) ]
If you are familiar with these kinds of problems/equations I would very much appreciate you input


There are two boundary conditions for the potential outside of the sphere:
1= the potential on the sphere which is given; +/-Vo.
2= the potential at a distance of infinity where the potential is zero.
We can plug these solutions at the bounderies in the general solution and try to find the specific potential that encompasses these two conditions.

F(r, angle a) = r^(l) Pl (cos a), r^(-l-1)Pl (cos a)
0 = summ from l= 0 to infinity of [ Al r^(l) Pl (cos a) + Bl r^(-l-1) Pl(cos a)]

I thought it might be possible ( as a physical 'trick' ) to get rid of the infinite radius since one is minus infinity and the other is plus infinity) then what we arer left with is:

0 = summ from l is 0 to infinity of [ Al Pl (cos a) + Bl Pl(cos a)]
since Pl (cos a) is not zero:

Al + Bl = zero

Bl = Al

Now we can put this value in the general soolution again and solve for the second boundary condition:

F(r', angle a) = summ from l is 0 to infinity of [ {Al r'^(l) + Al r'^(-l-1)} Pl (cos a) ]

we can multiply both sides with: Pm(cos a) sin a and then integrate from 0 to Pi (for angle a)


Pm(cos a) sin a F(r', angle a) =
summ from l is 0 to infinity of [ {Al r'^(l) + Al r'^(-l-1)} Pl Pm(cos a) sin a(cos a) ]

where we know that if we replace cos a by u that the second part of the equation on the right hand side is equal either to 0 or 2/2l+1 (see relevant formulas).

Now is where I am not sure how to continue (if it made sense up to this point);
we can find Al by shuffeling around the variables but how?
- the Pl(cos a) are replaced by 2/2l +1
- how does the summation over index l disappear?
 
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Vincent_111 said:
F(r, angle a) = r^(l) Pl (cos a), r^(-l-1)Pl (cos a)
0 = summ from l= 0 to infinity of [ Al r^(l) Pl (cos a) + Bl r^(-l-1) Pl(cos a)]

I thought it might be possible ( as a physical 'trick' ) to get rid of the infinite radius since one is minus infinity and the other is plus infinity) then what we are left with is:

Huh?:confused:

Are you claiming that [tex]\left.r^{-\ell-1}\right|_{r=\infty}=-\infty[/tex]? Because it doesn't; one divided by an infinitely large number gives you zero, not negative infinity. Even if it were [itex]-\infty[/itex], you couldn't just pretend that [itex]\infty+-\infty=A_\ell P_\ell (\cos\theta)+B_\ell P_\ell (\cos\theta)[/itex]... Adding two infinite numbers produces an undefined result.

You have that the potential is of the general form

[tex]\Phi(r,\theta)=\sum_{\ell=0}^{\infty}\left[A_\ell r^\ell +\frac{B_\ell}{r^{\ell+1}}\right]P_\ell(\cos\theta)[/tex]

As [itex]r[/itex] approaches infinity, [itex]r^\ell[/itex] blows up (except for [itex]\ell=0[/itex]). So the only way you can have a finite potential at [itex]r\to\infty[/itex] is if all the [itex]A_{\ell}=0[/itex] except for possibly [itex]A_0[/itex]. You should see, however, that [tex]\lim_{r\to \infty}\Phi(r,\theta)=A_0[/itex] and so [itex]A_0[/itex] also equals zero if you want the potential to be zero at infinity.
 
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Related to Electrostatic potential of a split sphere, using the laplacian for spherical coord

1. What is the laplacian for spherical coordinates?

The laplacian for spherical coordinates is a mathematical operator that is used to describe the behavior of a physical system in spherical coordinates. It is used to calculate the electrostatic potential of a split sphere by taking into account the radial distance, azimuthal angle, and polar angle of each point on the sphere.

2. How is the electrostatic potential of a split sphere calculated using the laplacian for spherical coordinates?

The electrostatic potential of a split sphere is calculated by using the laplacian for spherical coordinates to solve the Poisson's equation, which relates the electric potential to the charge distribution on the sphere. This involves taking into account the boundary conditions and solving for the potential at each point on the sphere.

3. What is the significance of using the laplacian for spherical coordinates in calculating the electrostatic potential of a split sphere?

The use of the laplacian for spherical coordinates allows for a more accurate calculation of the electrostatic potential of a split sphere, as it takes into account the spherical symmetry of the system. This is important as the electric field and potential are not constant throughout the sphere and vary with distance and angle.

4. How does the electrostatic potential of a split sphere change as the distance from the center of the sphere increases?

As the distance from the center of the sphere increases, the electrostatic potential decreases in a radial manner. This is due to the inverse square law, which states that the potential is inversely proportional to the square of the distance from the source charge.

5. Can the laplacian for spherical coordinates be applied to other physical systems besides a split sphere?

Yes, the laplacian for spherical coordinates can be applied to any physical system that exhibits spherical symmetry, such as a charged sphere or a spherical shell. It can also be used in other fields, such as fluid dynamics and quantum mechanics, to describe the behavior of systems in spherical coordinates.

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