Electric Potential & Electric Field of a Ring of Charge

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a ring of charge centered at the origin with a uniformly distributed charge of Q = -10 nC and a radius of R = 2.0 cm. It asks for the electric potential at a distance z = 5.0 cm above the origin on the z-axis, the electric field at the same distance, and the speed of a proton as it passes through the origin assuming it is released from rest at z = 5.0 cm. The solution involves using equations for electric potential, electric field, and conservation of energy. The correct answers are 1.8x10^3 V, 2.88x10^7 N/C, and 1.1x10^
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Homework Statement


A ring of charge is situated in the x‐y plane centered about the origin. The ring has a
uniformly distributed charge Q = ‐10 nC and a radius R = 2.0 cm.
a. Find the electric potential at a distance z = 5.0 cm above the origin on the z=axis.
b. Find the electric field at a distance z = 5.0 cm above the origin on the z=axis.
c. Find the speed of a proton as it passes through the origin assuming that it is
released from rest at z=5.0 cm.

Homework Equations


λ=Q/l
dl=RdΘ
dq=λdl
E(z)=KQx/(x^2+R^2)^3/2
U= KQq/r

The Attempt at a Solution



After solving to get this

b) E(z)=KQx/(x^2+R^2)^3/2

=(8.998x10^9)(10x10^-6)(0.05m) / (0.05^2+0.02^2)^3/2
=2.88x10^7 N/C

Now I feel like this is really easy to get a, but I can't seem to get it. And c is just blew my mind.
 
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(b) and (c) follow most easily from doing (a) first.

So you did (b) first... what is the relationship between the electric field and the electric potential?
Did you mistype the equation for E(z) - you have it dependent on x alone.
... in fact: much much easier for this geometry to just go back and do (a) from scratch.
What is the electric potential at z due to one charge element?

For (c) just use conservation of energy...
 
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Simon Bridge said:
(b) and (c) follow most easily from doing (a) first.

So you did (b) first... what is the relationship between the electric field and the electric potential?
Did you mistype the equation for E(z) - you have it dependent on x alone.
... in fact: much much easier for this geometry to just go back and do (a) from scratch.
What is the electric potential at z due to one charge element?

For (c) just use conservation of energy...

So I would use the electric potential equation to get a correct? Just fill what is known? So U=(8.998x10^9)(10x10^-6)(0.05) / (0.02)? Or since you asked what is the relationship. Would it be equal of each other?
 
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So I would use the electric potential equation to get a correct?
Since (a) asks you to find the electric potential, then the electric potential equation is what you use.
Just fill what is known? So U=(8.998x10^9)(10x10^-6)(0.05) / (0.02)?
How do you know to use that specific equation?
Or since you asked what is the relationship. Would it be equal of each other?
... would what be equal to each other? Don't guess - go look in your notes.

Guessing that you mean "is the electric field equal to the electric potential?" The answer is "no".

The electric field is the negative gradient of the electric potential.
The problem set is testing your knowledge of this so you should have that in your notes ... go look.
Or see: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/efromv.html
 
  • #5
Simon Bridge said:
Since (a) asks you to find the electric potential, then the electric potential equation is what you use. How do you know to use that specific equation? ... would what be equal to each other? Don't guess - go look in your notes.

Guessing that you mean "is the electric field equal to the electric potential?" The answer is "no".

The electric field is the negative gradient of the electric potential.
The problem set is testing your knowledge of this so you should have that in your notes ... go look.
Or see: http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/efromv.html

I redid a and I got 1.8x10^3 V from ΔV= Kq/r from which it is (8.998x10^9)(10*10^-9)/ (0.05m)
 
  • #6
I cannot help you if you don't answer questions.
If you are confident in your new answer, you can do the rest of the problem.
 

1. What is the formula for calculating the electric potential of a ring of charge?

The formula for calculating the electric potential of a ring of charge is V = kQ/r, where V is the electric potential, k is Coulomb's constant (9 x 10^9 Nm^2/C^2), Q is the charge of the ring, and r is the distance from the center of the ring.

2. How does the electric potential of a ring of charge vary with distance?

The electric potential of a ring of charge follows an inverse relationship with distance. This means that as the distance increases, the electric potential decreases. It also follows a direct relationship with the charge of the ring, so a larger charge would result in a higher electric potential.

3. How does the electric field of a ring of charge differ from the electric potential?

The electric field of a ring of charge is a vector quantity that represents the force experienced by a charged particle placed at a certain point around the ring. It is calculated using the formula E = kQ/r^2, where E is the electric field, k is Coulomb's constant, Q is the charge of the ring, and r is the distance from the center of the ring. Unlike electric potential, which is a scalar quantity, electric field has both magnitude and direction.

4. How does the electric potential of a ring of charge compare to that of a point charge?

The electric potential of a ring of charge is different from that of a point charge because the distribution of charge is different. A point charge has all its charge concentrated at a single point, while a ring of charge has its charge distributed along its circumference. This results in a different electric potential equation and a different pattern of electric potential values at different distances from the center.

5. Can the electric potential and electric field of a ring of charge be negative?

Yes, both the electric potential and electric field of a ring of charge can be negative. This occurs when the charge of the ring is negative, as the electric potential and electric field are directly proportional to the charge. Additionally, the direction of the electric field can also determine whether it is positive or negative at a certain point, as it can point towards or away from the ring of charge.

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