Earth's velocity wrt CMB gives the centre of the universe?

In summary: Divide the Earth's velocity by the Hubble's parameter, we will get a displacement vector, which is the vector that points from the centre of the universe to the Earth. Doesn't this contradict the assumption that the universe has no centre?No. The assumption that the universe has no center is not contradicted by the existence of a displacement vector. The vector tells us only that the centre of the universe (and hence the origin of the displacement) is somewhere out there in space. It doesn't tell us anything about the size, shape, or orientation of the centre.
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Alan Guth mentioned in his lectures that to get the accurate linear relationship of Hubble's law, we need to subtract the velocity of the Earth with respect to the cosmic microwave background (CMB) when calculating the velocity of galaxies.

Question 1:
If space is expanding uniformly throughout, why does the Earth move with respect to CMB?

Question 2:
If the Earth is moving at a velocity with respect to CMB, then doesn't this mean there is a special point that we can consider the centre of the universe? Divide the Earth's velocity by the Hubble's parameter, we will get a displacement vector, which is the vector that points from the centre of the universe to the Earth. Doesn't this contradict the assumption that the universe has no centre?

Guth's lecture:
 
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Happiness said:
If space is expanding uniformly throughout, why does the Earth move with respect to CMB?

Because Earth is not at rest with respect to the comoving coordinates. There is going to be local variations just as there are local variations of velocities in a fluid.

Happiness said:
If the Earth is moving at a velocity with respect to CMB, then doesn't this mean there is a special point that we can consider the centre of the universe?
No. Definitely not. There is simply no logic in this statement.
 
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If you are moving with respect to an isotropic backround, you see something very specific, a blue shift in one direction and red shift in the opposite one, and once you correct for this (assuming this is due to proper motion), you recover the isotropic background - nothing of the sort will show up if the background isn't isotropic.
So the CMB observations provide both a measure of Earth's motion relative to the background, and the evidence that this background is isotropic.

And large scale homogeneity with no center is the simplest assumption that explains this isotropy.
 
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Happiness said:
If the Earth is moving at a velocity with respect to CMB, then doesn't this mean there is a special point that we can consider the centre of the universe?

No, because those galaxies that are receding from us at huge redshifts also see themselves as barely moving with respect to the CMB, just as we see ourselves barely moving with respect to the CMB. By 'barely' I mean that our velocities are a tiny fraction of c relative to a nearby frame that is considered stationary with respect to the CMB. In other words, those galaxies receding from us do NOT measure a huge difference in the CMB between different parts of the sky.
 

Related to Earth's velocity wrt CMB gives the centre of the universe?

1. What is Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB?

Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB (Cosmic Microwave Background) is approximately 370 km/s. This is the speed at which Earth is moving through the universe relative to the CMB, which is a background radiation that fills the entire universe and is thought to be a remnant of the Big Bang.

2. How is Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB calculated?

Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB is calculated by measuring the Doppler shift of the CMB radiation. This is done by comparing the temperature of the CMB in different directions relative to Earth's motion. The slight difference in temperature is used to determine Earth's velocity relative to the CMB.

3. Does Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB change over time?

Yes, Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB changes over time due to the expansion of the universe. As the universe expands, the CMB radiation is stretched and the Doppler shift changes, altering Earth's velocity relative to the CMB.

4. Is Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB the same as the speed of light?

No, Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB is not the same as the speed of light. The speed of light is a constant and is the maximum speed at which anything can travel in the universe. Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB is much smaller in comparison.

5. How does Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB affect our understanding of the universe?

Earth's velocity with respect to the CMB provides important information about the structure and evolution of the universe. It is used in cosmology to study the large-scale structure of the universe and to test theories such as the Big Bang theory. It also helps us understand our place in the universe and how our galaxy is moving relative to other galaxies.

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