Drift velocity and measurement in wire

In summary, according to the content, light comes on immediately when you turn the switch on long distances because there is something pushing the wire forward. This is why the drift velocity is so slow for a copper wire; the electrons are accelerated by the electric field, but scatter off of thermal vibrations. If the wire is not pure, impurity scattering and collisions will dominate and the drift velocity will be worse.
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In class today we talked about drift velocity and we measured it for a 14 gauge copper conductor wire. It came out to be 3.55 * 10^-3 cm/s. I was wondering if the speed is so slow, then how can light come on instanteneously when you flip the switch over long distances? Is it because there might be something in the wire to push it foreward?
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Say I poke you with a stick. Does the drift velocity of stick make much differences to how quickly I get a reaction?
 
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So does that mean that it depends on the type of wire used? I want to know in terms of physics.
 
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Remember that Ohm's law is really stated [tex] J = \sigma E [/tex], the electric field moves at nearly the speed of light in a material, so that is why the light comes on pretty quickly after you turn on the switch.
 
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Yea, once the circuit is cut the electrons are still in every part of the wire. Once the connection is made they move continously.

What I don't understand is how this would work in long wires that carry data. Since it is not a continuous stream of electricity. Wouldn't the drift velocity apply to data in a wire?
 
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No, it's the same deal with data. You are merely transmitting a voltage from one point to another. You do that at the speed with which the electric field propagates.
 
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nertil1 said:
So does that mean that it depends on the type of wire used? I want to know in terms of physics.
Yes, the drift velocity depends on the type of wire used. Electrons are accelerated by the applied electric field, but scatter off of thermal vibrations ("phonons"). Accordingly, wire resistance drops, and drift velocity rises, with temperature, until reaching constant values due to frequent collisions with impurities and imperfections in the metal crystal. This occurs near absolute zero for pure metals, at higher temperatures for less pure metals.

If the metal is impure enough, then impurity scattering and collisions dominate. Pure annealed copper is a terrific conductor (annealing relieves stresses and produces good crystal structure), quenched pure copper has poorer crystal structure and worse conductivity, and brass (which is copper with zinc added) is worse yet.

Finally, drift velocity is directly proportional to the applied electric field.

Here's a web page that may be useful:
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/electric/ohmmic.html"
 
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Related to Drift velocity and measurement in wire

1. What is drift velocity?

Drift velocity is the average velocity at which electrons move in a wire in response to an electric field. It is also known as the net velocity or the terminal velocity.

2. How is drift velocity measured?

Drift velocity can be measured using a variety of techniques, including the Hall effect, the time-of-flight method, and the electron mobility measurement method. These methods involve applying an electric field to the wire and measuring the resulting current or electron motion.

3. What factors affect drift velocity?

The drift velocity of electrons in a wire can be affected by several factors, such as the strength of the electric field, the temperature of the wire, and the material of the wire. A higher electric field or lower temperature can increase the drift velocity, while a different material may have a different electron mobility and therefore a different drift velocity.

4. How does drift velocity relate to current?

The drift velocity of electrons is directly proportional to the electric current in a wire. This means that as the drift velocity increases, so does the current. Conversely, a decrease in drift velocity will result in a decrease in current.

5. Why is drift velocity important in electrical engineering?

Understanding drift velocity is crucial in electrical engineering because it helps in the design and optimization of electronic devices and circuits. It also allows for the calculation of parameters such as resistance and conductivity, which are important in the performance and efficiency of electrical systems.

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