Does the superposition of electric fields not hold for moving charges?

In summary, the field of a single point charge is different if it's alone or in a line because the component of the electric field normal to the motion is larger by the gamma factor.
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If a single point charge is moving, then the component of the electric field normal to the motion is larger (by the gamma factor) than if the charge were stationary.

Now consider an infinite line of charges (with a small separation, the same between each charge). If the whole line is moving along, then by length contraction the linear density (and hence electric field) is increased by gamma. But by the first paragraph, each individual charge should have its field increased by gamma. By this reasoning we should expect the field to be larger by gamma squared, as compared to the frame which sees the line stationary.

On the one hand I know this is silly, because length contraction of a line of charges could be how you derive the first paragraph in the first place. On the other hand though this really bothers me; why should the field of a single charge be different if it's alone or in a line?
 
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Where exactly do you see a problem?

Superposition always works.
 
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I agree with @mfb. The superposition principle still holds
 
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Hiero said:
because length contraction of a line of charges could be how you derive the first paragraph in the first place
No, it could not.

Consider a line charge ##\rho = \rho_0## in the rest frame of the charges. This gives a 4-current ##J \propto (\rho_0,0)##. Transforming this current to a system moving at velocty ##v## relative to the first gives the 4-current ##J' \propto \gamma \rho_0 (1,-v)##. The ##\gamma## here is exactly the length contraction of the distance between the charges, but the 4-current includes not only the charge density but also the additional current. This gives you an EM-source with a stationary charge and a stationary current, leading exactly to the factor of ##\gamma## in the electric field.

The point is that you are artificially adding another factor of ##\gamma## on top not caring about how the electric field of the point charge changes in the frame where the charges are moving. The component orthogonal to the direction of motion is given by
$$
E_\perp' = \frac{\gamma kQ}{\gamma^2(x'+vt')^2 + y'^2},
$$
What you seem to be neglecting is the factor of ##\gamma^2## in the denominator. Let's take the situation at time ##t' = 0## which leads to the ##vt'## term disappearing and use a spacing such that ##x_n = \delta n## in the rest frame of the charges. By length contraction, you then obtain ##x'_n = \delta n/\gamma##. The superposition of all of the charges then leads to
$$
E_\perp' = \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty \frac{\gamma kQ}{\gamma^2 (\delta n/\gamma)^2 + y^2}
= \gamma kQ \sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty \frac{1}{(\delta n)^2 + y^2} = \gamma E_\perp.
$$
No contradiction anywhere.
 
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Hiero said:
If a single point charge is moving, then the component of the electric field normal to the motion is larger (by the gamma factor) than if the charge were stationary.

Now consider an infinite line of charges (with a small separation, the same between each charge). If the whole line is moving along, then by length contraction the linear density (and hence electric field) is increased by gamma. But by the first paragraph, each individual charge should have its field increased by gamma. By this reasoning we should expect the field to be larger by gamma squared, as compared to the frame which sees the line stationary.

On the one hand I know this is silly, because length contraction of a line of charges could be how you derive the first paragraph in the first place. On the other hand though this really bothers me; why should the field of a single charge be different if it's alone or in a line?
Let's consider a line charges that starts moving, without any length contraction of the line occurring. Like electrons in a wire.

A test charge next to the line feels some extra force from the closest part of the line, and somewhat reduced force from the other parts of the line. Net force is unchanged. So net field is unchanged. If we think about field lines and how motion causes them to turn ... well then we get confused. Somehow that turning does not change the net field, when the charges form a line.
 
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Ah, I see. The rule is that at any point in spacetime the normal field is larger by gamma in the moving-charge frame than in the rest frame of the charge. This is not the same as saying the normal field is larger by gamma as compared to an identical-except-at-rest distribution of charge in the same frame, as I was mistakenly imagining.

Orodruin said:
No, it could not.
The way I saw it derived was by a plane of charge moving (along the plane). Is this an improper derivation, or is there some key difference about a plane vs. a line?
 
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Hiero said:
The way I saw it derived was by a plane of charge moving (along the plane). Is this an improper derivation, or is there some key difference about a plane vs. a line?
I might have written that part to hastily and later forgot to remove it. However, I think it is much simpler to just Lorentz transform the field tensor right away. It will give you the result right off the bat as you know that the field has to be ##kQ/r^2## in the radial direction in the rest frame of the charge.
 
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Orodruin said:
However, I think it is much simpler to just Lorentz transform the field tensor right away.
Not if you've never seen a field tensor! I'll learn these more elegant formulations in due time though.

Thanks for your help sir, your first reply hit the nail on the head.
 

Related to Does the superposition of electric fields not hold for moving charges?

1. What is the principle of superposition in electric fields?

The principle of superposition states that the total electric field at any point in space is equal to the vector sum of the individual electric fields produced by each source charge.

2. Does the superposition of electric fields apply to moving charges?

No, the principle of superposition does not hold for moving charges. This is because the electric field produced by a moving charge is not constant and can change over time.

3. Why does the superposition of electric fields not hold for moving charges?

The superposition of electric fields relies on the assumption that the electric field produced by a source charge remains constant. However, for moving charges, the electric field is constantly changing as the charge moves, making the principle of superposition invalid.

4. Are there any exceptions where the superposition of electric fields can be applied to moving charges?

Yes, in some cases where the velocity of the moving charge is very small compared to the speed of light, the electric field can be considered approximately constant and the principle of superposition can be applied. However, for most practical cases, the superposition of electric fields does not hold for moving charges.

5. How is the electric field of a moving charge different from that of a stationary charge?

The electric field of a moving charge is different from that of a stationary charge because it also includes a magnetic field component. This is known as an electromagnetic field and is described by Maxwell's equations. The strength of the electric field also varies with distance and time as the charge moves, while the electric field of a stationary charge is constant at any point in space.

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