Does relativity affect velocity dependent events?

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between changing magnetic and electric fields, and how they are perceived by different observers. The concept of "inducing" fields is explored and it is suggested that thinking about a single electromagnetic field may be a clearer approach.
  • #1
Wittyname6
19
0
I've heard that a changing magnetic field creates an electric field and vice versa. So if shoot an electron in a straight line, it would create a magnetic field in a circle around it.

Let's say the electron is moving quickly down a road. But there is another particle moving exactly the same speed as the electron beside it. Relative to this particle, the electron is not moving at all, but relative to an observer on the road, it is moving very quickly. Would this not mean that from the particles perspective, there is no field being created, and the observer on the sidewalk experiences some sort of field?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2
Yes. But the better way to think about it is that there is just an electromagnetic field. How we decompose this electromagnetic field into an electric part and a magnetic part depends on the frame of reference.

The usual notion of time-varying electric fields "inducing" rotational magnetic fields and time-varying magnetic fields "inducing" rotational electric fields often leads to conceptual issues (or even conceptual breakthroughs) for people first learning electrodynamics simply because the "induction" language works in an approximate framework. See for example this recent thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=759414
 
  • #3
Wittyname6 said:
Would this not mean that from the particles perspective, there is no field being created, and the observer on the sidewalk experiences some sort of field?
You have reasoned exactly correctly. As WBN mentioned, the "cleanest" way of looking at Maxwell's equations is not in terms of separate vector electric and magnetic fields, but rather in terms of a single tensor electromagnetic field.
 
  • #4
Wittyname6 said:
Let's say the electron is moving quickly down a road. But there is another particle moving exactly the same speed as the electron beside it. Relative to this particle, the electron is not moving at all, but relative to an observer on the road, it is moving very quickly. Would this not mean that from the particles perspective, there is no field being created, and the observer on the sidewalk experiences some sort of field?

From the particle's perspective, there is no magnetic field. There is still an electrical field; there has to be because the particle is sitting right next to a stationary charged electron, and that charge has to create an electrical field.

The sidewalk observer experiences both a magnetic and an electric field, both varying with time as the electron moves closer, passes, starts to move away, and eventually recedes to infinity.

As others have already pointed out, this whole problem is easier to solve if you think in terms of a single electromagnetic field instead of separate electrical and magnetic fields.
 
  • #5


Yes, relativity does affect velocity dependent events. This is because the theory of relativity states that the laws of physics are the same for all inertial observers, regardless of their relative velocities. In other words, the laws of physics should not change depending on the observer's frame of reference.

In the example given, the electron and the other particle are moving at the same velocity relative to each other, but they are moving at different velocities relative to the observer on the road. This means that the effects of their motion, such as the creation of a magnetic field, will also be perceived differently by the two observers.

From the perspective of the particle, there would be no magnetic field being created as it is not moving relative to the electron. However, from the perspective of the observer on the road, the electron is moving quickly and thus creating a magnetic field. This is due to the phenomenon of length contraction, where objects appear to be shorter in the direction of their motion when viewed from a different frame of reference.

So, while the particle may not experience any field, the observer on the road would indeed experience some sort of field due to the electron's motion. This highlights the importance of considering relativity in velocity dependent events, as the perceived effects of motion can vary depending on the observer's frame of reference.
 

Related to Does relativity affect velocity dependent events?

1. How does relativity affect the velocity of an object?

According to Einstein's theory of relativity, the velocity of an object can be affected by its relative motion to an observer. This means that the velocity of an object will be perceived differently by different observers depending on their relative motion.

2. Can relativity affect the speed of light?

Yes, according to the theory of relativity, the speed of light is constant and is not affected by the relative motion of the observer. The speed of light is considered to be the maximum possible velocity in the universe.

3. Does relativity affect time dilation?

Yes, according to the theory of relativity, time dilation occurs when an object is moving at high velocities. This means that time will appear to pass slower for the moving object compared to a stationary observer.

4. How does relativity affect the concept of simultaneity?

The theory of relativity states that simultaneity is relative and can be perceived differently by different observers depending on their relative motion. This means that events that are considered simultaneous by one observer may not be simultaneous for another observer.

5. Can relativity affect the measurement of distances?

Yes, according to the theory of relativity, distances can appear to be different for different observers depending on their relative motion. This is known as length contraction and it occurs when an object is moving at high velocities.

Similar threads

  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
4
Views
240
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
17
Views
750
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
29
Views
443
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
20
Views
1K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
14
Views
1K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
20
Views
837
  • Special and General Relativity
2
Replies
40
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
7
Views
2K
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
2
Views
860
  • Special and General Relativity
Replies
9
Views
388
Back
Top