Does a polarisationfilter do a measurement?

In summary, when considering a measurement of a photon after it has passed through a polarisation filter, it is important to note that the filter places the photon into a polarization eigenstate and completes the full measurement. A second polarizer can then be used to confirm this. Additionally, the concept of quantum jumps is not applicable in this situation, as quantum theory describes a smooth process governed by equations of motion. This formula also holds for measuring electron spin and any other particle described by a two-dimensional Hilbert space.
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Consider a measurement of a photon after it has passed a polarisationfilter. Does the photon jump in a (polarisation-)eigenstate by passing the filter? Does the filter do a measurement? Is the filter part of the entire measurement?
 
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Consider a measurement of a photon after it has passed a polarisationfilter. Does the photon jump in a (polarisation-)eigenstate by passing the filter? Does the filter do a measurement? Is the filter part of the entire measurement?

Ordinarily, the filter places the photon into a polarization eigenstate as you say. You could say that it also takes the detector to complete the full measurement. Technically that would be accurate.

Certainly, a 2nd polarizer (or PBS) after the first would then allow you to see that the 1st did in fact place the photon into the eigenstate.

So to a certain extent, what you call it is a matter of taste in this case.
 
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If I understand correctly, a measurement is made in a normalized basis. The measured particle eventually measures as a projection along one of eigenvectors of that basis. However, the particle can also be prepared in a superposition of eigenvectors of the measurement basis. (correct me if I'm wrong)

If I'm correct: consider a two-dimensional basis. Is a particle that is prepared in a superposition of eigenvectors of the basis in an angle α always measured with a distribution of cos2(α) resp. sin2(α) over several measurements? (such as is the case with polarized photons and polarizers?)
 
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Exactly, and a polarization filter indeed does prepare photons of a given (linear) polarization state. Of course, nothing jumps since the time evolution in quantum theory is a smooth process governed by the equations of motion for state (statistical) operators and that of the operators representing observables. There are no quantum jumps according to quantum theory!

Of course, FAPP you can often just idealize a polarization filter as a projection operator and neglect the transition time of the state vector, because it's tiny compared to the time scales we resolve in such experiments.
 
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Does the formula I mentioned also hold for, say, measuring electron spin? In other words: does it hold for any particle? (not just for polarisation and photons?)
 
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It's true for spin-1/2 particles and photons or for any system that's described by some two-dimensional Hilbert space like the spin component of spin-1/2 particles and the polarization of massless (relativistic) quanta, which both are described in a two-dimensional Hilbert space.
 
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Related to Does a polarisationfilter do a measurement?

1. What is a polarisation filter?

A polarisation filter is an optical device used to filter out light waves that are vibrating in a specific direction. It only allows light waves with a certain polarisation to pass through, while blocking out light waves with other polarisations.

2. How does a polarisation filter work?

A polarisation filter is made of a material that has long molecules aligned in a specific direction. When light passes through the filter, only the light waves that are vibrating in the same direction as the aligned molecules can pass through, while other light waves are absorbed or reflected.

3. Can a polarisation filter measure the polarisation of light?

No, a polarisation filter does not measure the polarisation of light. It only filters out light waves with certain polarisations. In order to measure the polarisation of light, a separate measuring device, such as a polarimeter, is needed.

4. What is the purpose of using a polarisation filter in scientific experiments?

A polarisation filter is commonly used in scientific experiments to control the polarisation of light. By adjusting the orientation of the filter, researchers can manipulate the polarisation of light and study its effects on various materials or phenomena.

5. Are there different types of polarisation filters?

Yes, there are different types of polarisation filters, such as linear polarisers, circular polarisers, and wave plate polarisers. Each type has its own unique properties and is used for specific purposes in different scientific experiments or applications.

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