Discovering Lift Force in Case 2

In summary, we have discussed the lift force in case 1 and the possibility of calculating it for case 2 using Archimedes' Principle. We have also clarified the difference between lift force and buoyancy and how buoyant force depends on the amount of water displaced rather than the shape of the object. However, there may be some complications in calculating the resultant force, as different points on the submerged surface may experience different normal forces depending on the pressure at that depth.
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yilbaris
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We all know the lift force in case 1, what about case 2 ?
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Note that there is also a force from the liquid pushing down on the additional wings you put in ...
 
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Buoyant force depends only on the amount of water displaced, not the shape of the object displacing it.
 
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yilbaris said:
We all know the lift force in case 1, what about case 2 ?View attachment 89160
If by "lift force", you actually mean "buoyancy", this can be calculated for case 2, although it is slightly more complicated than case 1.

Remember Archimedes' Principle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archimedes'_principle

Note: in technical use, "lift force" is usually reserved for a force which is created by a dynamic situation, like the lift generated by an airplane's wings when flying.
OTOH, "buoyancy" usually refers to a force created by a static situation, like the displacement of fluid by a floating object.
 
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Thank you for answers,

? To calculate the resultant force is possible, but i wonder distribution of force. ?
 
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Every point on the submerged surface of the object feels a normal force proportional to the pressure at that depth ## \rho g h ##
 
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MrAnchovy said:
Every point on the submerged surface of the object feels a normal force equal to the pressure at that depth ## \rho g h ##
A force can never equal a pressure, the dimensions are different. An area element is subjected to a normal force equal to the pressure multiplied by the area
 
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Thank you all.

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Orodruin said:
A force can never equal a pressure, the dimensions are different. An area element is subjected to a normal force equal to the pressure multiplied by the area
I wanted to steer clear of elemental areas for the sake of clarity but I take your point; I have amended 'equal' to 'proportional'.
 

Related to Discovering Lift Force in Case 2

1. What is lift force and how does it work?

Lift force is the upward force that acts on an object as it moves through a fluid, such as air or water. It is generated by differences in air pressure above and below the object. As air flows over and under the object, the air pressure above decreases while the air pressure below increases, resulting in a net upward force.

2. How is lift force different in Case 2 compared to other cases?

In Case 2, the object is at an angle of attack (the angle between the object's direction of motion and the oncoming air) less than 90 degrees. This creates a different pressure distribution on the object, leading to a larger lift force compared to other cases where the angle of attack is greater than 90 degrees.

3. What factors affect the magnitude of lift force in Case 2?

The magnitude of lift force in Case 2 is affected by the angle of attack, the size and shape of the object, the speed of the object, and the density of the fluid. The shape of the object can also play a significant role in determining the amount of lift force generated.

4. How is lift force measured in Case 2?

Lift force can be measured using a variety of techniques, such as using strain gauges, pressure sensors, or force plates. These measurements can provide information on the magnitude and direction of the lift force acting on the object.

5. How is lift force important in real-world applications?

Lift force is crucial in many real-world applications, particularly in the fields of aerodynamics and fluid mechanics. Understanding lift force is essential for designing efficient and stable aircraft, as well as for optimizing the performance of sports equipment such as racing cars, bicycles, and golf balls. It also plays a vital role in natural phenomena such as bird flight and insect flight.

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