How stable is the CMBR map over time?

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In summary, the CMBR (Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation) displays the early universe and its intensity variations are caused by the conversion of energy into matter. The distribution of intensity should remain constant over time, even over thousands of years, and any changes would be too slow to be detected by current instruments. There has been ongoing observation of the CMBR through the COBE and WMAP missions, with no signs of change. The CMBR pattern is considered eternal, like the Sistine Chapel ceiling painted by Michelangelo.
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To what extent does the CMBR vary over time ? If I have understood it correctly the intensity variations in http://lambda.gsfc.nasa.gov/product/cobe/cobe_images/cmb_fluctuations_big.gif, are due to the fact that some of this energy turned into matter in the early universe. So in a sense, the CMBR displays what the early universe looked like, correct ? .. roughly anyway ... :smile:

If this is true, then this intensity distribution should be pretty static, right ? So if this sort of map is produced again in a couple of years, it should look basically the same, am I right ? Has this comparison already been made perhaps ?
 
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...If this is true, then this intensity distribution should be pretty static, right ? So if this sort of map is produced again in a couple of years, it should look basically the same, am I right ? ...

I believe you are right. The pattern of hot and cold spots should not change even over thousands of years.

the overall average temperature (around 2.7 kelvin) is gradually cooling as the universe expands

since the radiation was released it has cooled by an estimated factor of 1100 from around 3000 kelvin to the present 2.7 kelvin
so, in this limited sense, the CMB is changing-----if we could wait a very very long time we would see it cool slightly
but the pattern of variation from the average (the hot and cold spots) would not be expected to change even as the average declines



BTW these maps showing variations of a few millikelvin around the average
already have the effects of the observer's motion factored out.
secular changes in the observer's motion would affect the CMB which is actually seen, over time (e.g. as the direction the sun is traveling in the galaxy changes) but that's been compensated for so it doesn't really count
 
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Thanx marcus..

So if this comparison hasn't been done yet, when are we likely to see one ?
 
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Hydr0matic said:
Thanx marcus..

So if this comparison hasn't been done yet, when are we likely to see one ?

A comparison over time has been implicitly in progress since COBE in the 1990s and now with WMAP

every year we get more data
there is never any sign of a change
the map just gets more and more refined

the face of the CMB, in that map,
is eternal

it is like the Sistine Chapel ceiling that Michelangelo painted
except even more permanent---well you think of a better image.
it is more permanent than any other image I can think of

It is not really correct to say "a comparison has not been done yet"
since there has been continuous observation over quite a few years
and any change would have been noticed


only there is this very slow cooling, which is much too slow for any
instrument to detect, coming from the very slow expansion of the universe
 
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1. What is CMBR and how is it measured?

CMBR stands for Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation, which is the leftover thermal radiation from the Big Bang. It can be measured using specialized telescopes that detect microwave frequencies.

2. Why is it important to compare CMBR over time?

Studying the changes in CMBR over time can provide valuable insights into the evolution of the universe and the formation of structures such as galaxies and galaxy clusters. It can also help test and refine theories about the Big Bang and the early universe.

3. How has CMBR changed since its discovery?

CMBR has been found to be extremely uniform and isotropic, with only small fluctuations in temperature. However, over time, these fluctuations have been found to be slightly larger, which is consistent with the predictions of the Big Bang theory.

4. What methods are used to compare CMBR over time?

Scientists use various methods such as statistical analysis, mapping, and simulations to compare CMBR data collected at different points in time. They also use data from different telescopes and experiments to cross-check and validate their findings.

5. What can we learn from comparing CMBR over time?

By comparing CMBR data over time, we can learn about the expansion of the universe, the composition and distribution of matter and energy, and the origins of the universe. We can also gain a better understanding of the fundamental laws of physics and the processes that have shaped our universe.

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