Differentials in the context of thermodynamics

In summary, the conversation discusses differentials in the context of thermal physics, specifically the conservation of energy in terms of state variables. The first principle is explained in terms of mathematical dependence and Taylor expansion. The concept of "small" in this context is clarified. The conversation also touches on related questions about changes in temperature, pressure, and internal energy in a gas expanding in a container, and the constraints for solving such exercises. Finally, the role of heat and work in energy transfer and the relationship between heat and work are discussed.
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I just want to make sure I understand differentials in the context of thermal physics. One of the big statements of thermodynamics is the conservation of energy in terms of the state variables [itex]U,T,S,V,P[/itex]:

[tex]
dU = T dS - P dV.
[/tex]

What does this really MEAN though? Is there any way to understand this in a mathematically rigorous way? People keep explaining it to me like this: "Well, what is means is that a SMALL change in energy is equal to a SMALL change in entropy times..." But "small" is a relative term...so what does "small" mean in this context?
 
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In mathematical terms, every state function is a function of two independent variables, in your case the entropy and the volume. So for example U = U(S, V). Once you have this functional dependance, which can be found for example using the canonical ensembles of statistical mechanics, you define

[tex]T=\left(\frac{\partial U}{\partial S}\right)_V\qquad\qquad P=-\left(\frac{\partial U}{\partial V}\right)_S[/tex]

and this way the first principle looks the way you wrote it. You can see it as a first-order Taylor expansion of internal energy:

[tex]\Delta U=T\Delta S-P\Delta V+O(\Delta S^2+\Delta V^2)[/tex]

explaining this way the term "small".
 
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In general, when a physics books says that an equality holds for "small" or "infinitesimal" values of the variables, the equality is a Taylor expansion up to some finite order, with all higher order terms dropped. For example, a book might say that f(x)=f(0)+f'(0)x for infinitesimal x. This is stupid for the claim that f(x)=f(0)+f'(0)x+O(x2) in the limit x→0. The "big O" notation is explained here.

If U is a function of two variables, we can define dU as a function of four variables:

[tex]dU(S,V,x,y)=\frac{\partial U(S,V)}{\partial S}x+\frac{\partial U(S,V)}{\partial S}y=Tx-Py[/tex]

and if we call the new variables dS and dV, we have

[tex]dU(S,V,dS,dV)=TdS-PdV[/tex]

where I have used the definitions in Petr's post above. Note that a Taylor expansion of U around (S,V) takes the form

[tex]U(S',V')=U(S,V)+\frac{\partial U}{\partial S}(S'-S)+\frac{\partial U}{\partial V}(V'-V)+\mathcal O(|(S'-S,V'-V)|^2)[/tex]

[tex]=U(S,V)+dU(S,V,S'-S,V'-V)+\mathcal O(|(S'-S,V'-V)|^2)[/tex]

so if we define dS=S'-S, dV=V'-V, then dU(S,V,dS,dV) is the first-order approximation of U(S',V')-U(S,V).
 
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Thanks for your help, guys. I'll busy myself wrapping my head around the things you've said. In the meantime, I'd like to ask a few other questions related to thermal physics:

Suppose you initially have a gas confined, by a partition, to 1/2 of a container (which is isolated from its surroundings). Then you remove the partition and the gas expands to fill the whole container. Certainly, the volume of the gas has changed (it's doubled). But has the temperature of the gas changed? Has the pressure changed? Has the internal energy changed? How do we know?
 
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To solve the simple exercise of the "free expansion" you shall consider (Hp: ideal gas):

-> p, V and T are related by ideal gas law
-> No energy exchange happens during the expansion
-> Energy depends only on temperature

These arguments put a constraint on the final state which allow you to compute it.

Ll.
 
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Llewlyn said:
To solve the simple exercise of the "free expansion" you shall consider (Hp: ideal gas):

-> p, V and T are related by ideal gas law
-> No energy exchange happens during the expansion
-> Energy depends only on temperature

These arguments put a constraint on the final state which allow you to compute it.

Ll.

Ok. Well, then I would think the following: No energy exchange implies [itex]\Delta U = 0[/itex], implying [itex]\Delta T = 0[/itex]. The ideal gas law then tells us [itex]P[/itex] decreases by a factor of two...am I right?

I guess another general question I could ask is this: We have [itex]dU = \delta Q + \delta W[/itex] (where the latter two are inexact differentials)...for a given system, can we only have [itex]\delta Q \neq 0[/itex] if the system is able to interact with its surroundings in some way?
 
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Yes, and yes. And besides, if a system is really unable to interact with its surroundings, [itex]\delta W = 0[/itex] as well. That's just energy conservation: [itex]\mathrm{d} U = \delta Q + \delta W[/itex] means that any change in the internal energy must be a result of some energy entering or leaving the system. And there are only two ways for energy to enter or leave: heat and work.

Of course, in principle it is possible to set up a system which can exchange energy by heat transfer but not by work (e.g. enclose it in a rigid, thermally conducting box). Or you could set up a system which can exchange energy by work but not by heat transfer (e.g. an insulating piston chamber).
 
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Ok, thanks. Again, I appreciate all the help.

Now, here's a question I'm not even sure makes any sense...if a spring is compressed some amount beyond its equilibrium length and is allowed to decompress by an infinitesimal amount, is there any change in the entropy of the spring?
 

Related to Differentials in the context of thermodynamics

What is a differential in thermodynamics?

A differential in thermodynamics refers to the small changes in a thermodynamic property, such as temperature, pressure, or volume, that occur during a process or system. It is represented by the symbol "d" and is used in mathematical equations to describe infinitesimal changes.

Why are differentials important in thermodynamics?

Differentials are important in thermodynamics because they allow for the precise description and analysis of thermodynamic processes and systems. They enable scientists to calculate changes in properties and predict the behavior of a system under varying conditions.

How are differentials used in thermodynamic equations?

In thermodynamics, differentials are used to represent infinitesimal changes in properties, such as temperature (dT), pressure (dP), or volume (dV). They are then integrated to find the total change in the property over a certain range. For example, the first law of thermodynamics can be written as dU = dQ - dW, where dU represents the change in internal energy and dQ and dW represent infinitesimal changes in heat and work, respectively.

What is the relationship between differentials and total differentials in thermodynamics?

In thermodynamics, a total differential is the sum of all infinitesimal changes in a system. It is represented by the symbol "δ" and is used to describe the total change in a property over a certain range. Differentials are used to calculate the total differential and are related through mathematical operations, such as integration and differentiation.

How do differentials relate to the laws of thermodynamics?

Differentials are essential in understanding and applying the laws of thermodynamics. The first law of thermodynamics, which states that energy cannot be created or destroyed but can only change form, uses differentials to describe and quantify changes in internal energy. The second law of thermodynamics, which describes the direction of heat flow, uses differentials to calculate the change in entropy. The third law of thermodynamics, which states that entropy approaches a constant value as temperature approaches absolute zero, also uses differentials in its mathematical formulation.

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