Difference of Hydrogen Hamiltonian with relative mass particles

In summary, the conversation discusses the qm-derivation of the electronic states of hydrogen, specifically focusing on the coulomb-force and two different derivations. One derivation neglects the movement of the proton due to its heavy mass, while the other takes into account the proton's movement using the relative mass. Both derivations are similar, but the one using the reduced mass is more accurate. However, the difference in energy levels is very small due to the significant difference in mass between the proton and electron. This difference is only relevant for precision spectroscopy, not for determining the color of emission.
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Abigale
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Hi guys,
I consider the qm-derivation of the electronic states of hydrogen.

There are two different derivations (I consider only the coulomb-force):

1) the proton is very heavy, so one can neglect the movement
2) the proton moves a little bit, so one uses the relative mass ##\mu##

The derivation for the 1) case is easy.

Where is the physical difference at the end of the calculations for case 1) or 2)?
Do both Hamiltonians lead to the same result?

Thank you very much!
Greez Abby
 
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The derivations are completely analogous. The one using the reduced mass is more accurate since it takes the proton into account in terms of movement. The difference is miniscule as the proton is much much heavier than the electron.
 
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To quantify miniscule: the proton mass is about 1840 times the electron mass, so all energy levels shift by about 1/1840 of their energy.
Certainly important if you want to do precision spectroscopy, irrelevant if you want to know if the emission will be blue or red.
 

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